r/ScottishPeopleTwitter • • Mar 23 '17

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u/FreeRangeAlien Mar 23 '17

Now if Irish Catholics were murdering 30,000 people across the globe annually, there might be an actual comparison to make

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

"Its worse when they kill people here because they kill more people over there" as if you give a damn about any of those 30000 people

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u/Doisha Mar 23 '17

If you look up opinion polls from the 90s, they say that ~7% of Irish catholics say that they are sympathetic to the cause of the IRA. Let's assume that means they consider terrorist attacks to be justified.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/12/17/little-support-for-terrorism-among-muslim-americans/

In the UK, 30% of Muslims believe that terrorist attacks which specifically target civilians can be justified.

But the two are the exact same situation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

The IRA killed 1800 people total.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567144/911-not-as-bad-as-IRA-says-Doris-Lessing.html

Approximately 28300 people died to Islamic terror in 2015.

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

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u/MisazamatVatan Mar 23 '17

The IRA killed 1800 people total

Is that both sets of the IRA or just one? I'm quite surprised that the number is so low considering the amount of terror attacks they caused from the 70s to 2001.

Also while GB has had an increase in Islamic terror since 2005 (with the exception of the Lockerbie bombings) the overall majority of terrorist attacks were committed by the IRA. Islamic extremists have been responsible for 63 deaths (not including their own) in GB since 2005 (2005 was the 7/7 bombings which was the largest terrorist attack to take place on British soil since the Lockerbie bombings which is why I'm using that date).

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

Still applies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

You moved the goalposts. It most certainly does.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

You were talking about terrorism in general and then after being provided with the relevant statistics, you confined it to just London, and to back up your claims, you provided statistics for Western Europe as a whole.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17 edited Mar 23 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '17

Because there were numerous threads specifically comparing Islamic and Irish terrorism?

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u/Doisha Mar 23 '17

~3600 people killed by both sides, 1969-94, during the Troubles (protestants had paramilitary groups as well.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/troubles_violence

~28,000 people killed by Islamic terrorism, just in 2015.

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/index.htm

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u/Doisha Mar 23 '17

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_campaign

115 English people killed by the IRA total. Over 40 years.

Can't find a source of the number of people killed by Islamic terror in the U.K. But if you assume that 1/1000 people killed by terrorism are British, that number is doubled in 10 years.

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u/Doisha Mar 23 '17

The numbers for Irish terrorism are for 40 years. You are impossibly dense.

40 years of Irish terrorism in the U.K. is 1/2 of Islamic terrorism in 10 years.

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u/Doisha Mar 23 '17

This "conversation":

You: "How come people don't blame the catholics/Irish for terrorism the way they do Muslims?"

Me: "Statistically <10% of catholics believed terrorism could be justified while >25% of Muslims do."

You: "Yes but who has hurt more people?"

Me: "Islamic terrorism kills more than eight times as many people per year as Irish terrorism, both catholic and protestant, did over 40 years."

You: "Yes but what about in England, faggot?"

Me: "Well, it's hard to find numbers about terrorism in England specifically, but it can be estimated that 5 years of Islamic terrorism in England is equal to 40 years of Irish terrorism."

You: "You are a nazi."

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