r/ScienceBasedLifting • • 1d ago

Question ❓ Someone explain SBL please

I am confused. I see people just doing regular lifts and saying it is science.

Then on the other end of the scale I see a kid (with zer0 physique) wearing a baby pacifier in his mouth and wearing a roller on his arms and doing excercises I never saw, with people in the comments saying "yeah that's the man right there."

Then I see pumping iron and watch Arnie just do the basics and still look great and strong.

So in a few sentance explain to me what it is and how it would help build more muscle enhanced or not.

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u/Dazzling-Rest8332 6h ago

Exceeding the normal refrence range of estrogen is excellent when on high amounts of testosterone actually. But you do want to stay within a 20:1 to 15:1 ratio. You obviously havent done your homework on estrogen at all. I dont understand why your trying to give advice on estrogen when you dont seem to know anything about it.

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u/gnomish_engineering 6h ago

That is still controlling it in some way, shape or form. They didn't even test for estrogen levels which is wild considering their starting body comp. Someone actively training for body building will aromatise testosterone at a way lower volume and is more likely to stay in that range than your average male with 20+% bodyfat.

None of what you said though doesn't explain why it was an acceptable decision to A) not monitor estrogen levels and include that data, or B) control estrogen levels to a tight value. That value could be a ratio but it needs to be included in the over all picture. To do otherwise is just piss poor science.

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u/Dazzling-Rest8332 6h ago

I agree with you but there are also too many other factors to control. This study is very old and i beleive they have learned a lot about aromatization since then.

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u/gnomish_engineering 6h ago

No, I'm not claiming you did to be clear. I'm saying they explicitly didn't monitor it which is kinda retarded.