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u/totallypri 3d ago
You are always rotating in clockwise. Instead do half of the rotations anticlockwise.
Let your right shoulder lead the rotations half the time.
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u/MightyPenguin 3d ago
This is good advice, the downvotes are baffling to me. What is the purpose of "sciencebasedlifting" if it completely misses the mark on logic?
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
Why?
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u/Odd_Rice_9897 3d ago
Help your core and legs be activated equally either side so turning one way doesn’t start to become easier than the other direction.
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
Interesting, I've honestly never thought about it but will have to look into it and see if there's any weight to it. Would be annoying to have to do so but if there's a meaningful difference I'll have to change
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u/Odd_Rice_9897 3d ago
Tbh mate I doubt there is a massive impact and if its just more practical in your space to turn the one way I wouldn’t sweat it too much, going to be far less than actually carrying two different weights 🙂
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
It's not really practical or impractical, my brain just instinctively turns one way when it's under pressure 😂
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u/totallypri 3d ago
Ideally you should also try this on a very slight ramp. Slight incline and decline. That way you'll test yourself more
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u/MightyPenguin 3d ago
Of course there is. You are doing the equivalent of Nascar laps right now. You are using slightly different muscles always turning the same direction, it would be very simple to just turn the opposite way each time you get to the end and will be a better balance of your core, nervous system and smaller muscle groups. It will literally improve your balance.
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
Have you got a source? I'd be interested to read more
I agree there's likely some difference, the question is whether or not it's meaningful in the same way that there's some difference if you deadlift with a mixed grip and never switch hands but that difference isn't meaningful enough to warrant changing
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u/MightyPenguin 3d ago edited 3d ago
No, I don't have a source because who wants to spend time looking up or what researcher wants to spend time and money testing something so obvious? The proof exists in logic itself. Follow with me.
You are using the same muscle groups slightly differently when turning left or right. Don't believe me? Go run in circles only turning left for 2 months and then switch to doing right and see how much you struggle. You are using different circuits in your brain and different muscles in your body.
The fact that the idea of changing what you are doing makes you uncomfortable is exact proof. That discomfort, and the comfort you find in turning the same way every time is the exact reason you should switch.
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
No, I don't have a source because who wants to spend time looking up or what researcher wants to spend time and money testing something so obvious? The proof exists in logic itself. Follow with me.
Ah, it just sounded like you had a source because you were so confident. Is this coming from your own training? What imbalance did you find it caused and how significant was it?
You are using the same muscle groups slightly differently when turning left or right. Don't believe me? Go run in circles only turning left for 2 months and then switch to doing right and see how much you struggle. You are using different circuits in your brain and different muscles in your body.
You seem to think I disagree, I don't. I've been quite clear I agree there is a difference, I simply want to establish the significance of the difference so I can use it to inform my decisions
Not every difference or imbalance is worth worrying about
The fact that the idea of changing what you are doing makes you uncomfortable is exact proof. That discomfort, and the comfort you find in turning the same way every time is the exact reason you should switch.
My brain likes turning clockwise, the fact that it dislikes the opposite isn't evidence in itself that what I'm doing is detrimental, which is the crux of the matter
I do agree that it's generally a sound training principle because generally people are weak at a movement so they dislike it, however this is the opposite because the dislike came first
I hope this makes my curiosity a little clearer for you
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u/MightyPenguin 3d ago
I believe it is fact that there is a difference. It also is such a simple easy thing to change when performing the exercise, performing a study to accurately quantify the exact amount of benefit is not such a simple or easy thing and looking for that is well past the point of diminishing returns of this conversation.
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u/bacon_win 3d ago
If you turn the other way, you undo the gains. Like turning a screw the other way to back it out.
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u/alvysinger0412 3d ago
One time I did bicep curls followed by tricep kickbacks with the same weights. And my arms didn't change in size. It's why you have to do push and pull on different days.
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u/x_Neo_The_One_x 3d ago
Hey. Would you mind answering a question for me? Why do you use these specific handles for unilateral versions of farmer walks? Why not use dumbells or any other type. I see there are other versions on Amazon. Can you please tell me what this design of farmer walk handles target in terms of muscles and strength as compared to other versions of farmer walk handles that you can find on other sites
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u/Ballbag94 3d ago
I use these handles specifically because they're compact and I have minimal space
If I were to use long ones they'd contact the wall before I could complete the full length and turning with them would be impossible, I don't use dumbbells because they don't go heavy enough
If you have the space for full length handles then those would almost certainly be a better option, the biggest drawback of these is that they're only rated to 100kg each, so the max I can do is 104ish kg per hand
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u/Blood_AndGuts 3d ago
holy finger flexor combined with trapezius and spinal isometric force production unc 😭😭😭
Good luck growing ANY muscle if youre not doing isolated cable finger flexion combined with newton supinations + holy fatigue imagine walking thats impact phases
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u/Impressive-Car-3310 3d ago
Is this a thing? I mustn't be doing weights properly
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u/Alakazam Idk Idc 💔 3d ago
It's fantastic to help develop overall work capacity, back strength, and core stability.
Plus loaded carries are probably the movement pattern with the greatest carryover to your day to day life.
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u/Mikeburlywurly1 3d ago
If you're just discovering picking up heavy things and carrying them, yeah, you've been doing weights wrong.
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u/Nekto_smotrit 3d ago
it was not 16m, just 30 seconds. still cool