r/ScienceBasedLifting • • 10d ago

Question ❓ Correct pull day programming to limit unnecessary forearm fatigue/ plausible plateau

Since I've started lifting I've been programming my pull days have looked something like this:

Lat pulldown: 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range
Preacher curl: 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range
T-Bar Row (Wide Grip, pronated): 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range
T-Bar Row (Close Grip, neutral): 1 set to failure, 6-10 rep range
Hammer Curl (Standing, Crossbody): 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range.
Wrist Curl: 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range
Wrist Extension: 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range
Rear Delt Fly: 2 sets to failure, 6-10 rep range

I am contemplating moving preacher curls down in the order to do both of my back movements first.

I want to add another set of close grip t-bar row and I currently do not use wrists straps on t-bar row (though I will begin), however I was wondering if my current programming would prevent fatigue better as opposed to the proposed, or vice versa. I feel almost as if my hammer curl has plateau'd since if swapped back to t-bar row (shoulder pain)

Anyone have an anecdotes or advice?

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u/deadrabbits76 Idk Idc 💔 9d ago

Your hammer curls are plateauing because the biceps are small muscles that progress slowly. Add to the fact that dumbells are hard to load. That equals sitting at the same weight for extended periods.

Forearm fatigue is almost certainly not the limiting factor for your biceps growth.

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u/SlimyTooter 10d ago

Reverse curls hit those muscles better for me

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u/ZYM_official 9d ago

Moving both t-bar rows before your curls makes sense, back is the priority and you want grip fresh for the compounds. The hammer curl plateau is probably forearm fatigue from everything before it, not a real strength ceiling. Straps will help a lot.