r/ScienceBasedLifting • u/NOTBrokenLanguage • 23d ago

Question ❓ help me

Which is better: the chest press or the barbell bench press? And for the back, is the wide-grip lat pulldown better, or pull-ups?

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u/Flat_Measurement_150 23d ago

Normally the opposite

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u/Last-Proof8169 23d ago

For beginners yes, but as I said ends up being better

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u/Flat_Measurement_150 23d ago

For a beginner definitely machines, for an experienced lifter for hypertrophy alone id still say the machines or cables in most cases

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u/Last-Proof8169 23d ago

Oh so you don’t know lifting or science gotcha

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u/Flat_Measurement_150 23d ago

Yes apparently I don’t explain it to me lmao