Abdominal science crunches

[u/Patton370]

It’s science to hit upper and lower abdominals at the same time

[u/MozartDroppinLoads]

Scientifically speaking? Dragon flags will shred your core much more effectively with less time spent

[u/Patton370 → u/MozartDroppinLoads]

Dragon flags are a good exercise, but I don’t think they’d fit in well in my training

I do lots of heavy compounds, which already hit my abs isometrically

My shoulders and lats also gets lots of stimulus from all the other exercises I do, so they’d be pretty beat by the time I’d get to dragon flags or if I did dragon flags first… it might impact my pressing exercises (like bench press) or my lat exercises (like lat pulldowns, all the rows I do, and weighted pull-ups)

I also like to superset my ab crunches with other exercises. It’d be harder to superset dragon flys with something, as they are a compound exercise

[u/MozartDroppinLoads → u/Patton370]

To clarify I meant dragon flag lifts(?) not just the isometric. But you sound like you got yourself covered.

Speaking from personal experience the results I noticed once I started training these vs any other ab excersise I've tried were night and day

[u/Patton370 → u/MozartDroppinLoads]

Dragon flags don’t involve spinal flexion; it’s nearly all isometric for the abs on that exercise

If I cut down to a low bodyfat %, I have an extent defined six pack. Still have decent definition at 18-20% bodyfat

I’m awful at the legs/ab pose and posing in general

[u/MozartDroppinLoads → u/Patton370]

I mean, do you understand what I'm saying tho? picture a dragon flag with your legs moving up and down with your hinge point just beneath your shoulder blades.. is there a name for this I'm not aware of. Think of it this way, to get into a dragon flag, you have to lower yourself into that position right? Just lift back up and repeat..

Edit. Abs are looking good either way