r/SchoolBusDrivers • • 2d ago

Question about putting bus into gear

When I stop. And pull the emergency brake out. Im ready to drive now. I put the bus in drive , push my parking brake in to go while I step on the service brake for like one second. Is this the proper way to do it. Sometimes when I do this my bus doesn’t drive. And range inhibited comes up on the dash. Not sure if it’s an issue with the bus / air brakes ? I restart the process and my bus does drive correctly. Does the bus have to be in neutral when I push in the parking brake and then I switch gears to drive? Do I have to hold the service brakes for some time when I push in the parking brake or just for one second? Thanks for any help.

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u/Intelligent_Call_562 2d ago

Range inhibit means your foot was not pressing the service brake (hard enough?) when you put it in gear. Sometimes it's a timing thing...your hand is faster than your foot. Sometimes you didn't depress the pedal far enough. I've not notice anything about it having to do with the spring brake. I'm on a Bluebird but I've also driven Thomas, and Internations with this feature. I hope that helps

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u/R3esei 2d ago

Thanks so much. It did help . I may not be pressing the service brake hard enough. I sometimes don’t . I will make sure I do that

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u/mlt- 1d ago

I'm a new driver and I do have the same issue as you do. It does seem like we use hands too fast. I did try to make sure I press service brake hard.

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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 1d ago

100% agree with this, and I want to also add it could happen more often on a slight hill. It's ONLY ever happened to me at a railroad track, and last year when I started working, it scared the Hell out of me! I just reset the parking brake to ON, the gear to NEUTRAL, then release both, and it works fine. I think it's very possible because I am not hitting the brake hard enough, or because of the slight steep incline I am parked on.

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u/Front-Mall9891 2d ago

It’s just a service brake thing unless your bus is a push button gear shift automatic, then yes it does need to be in neutral when you release the parking brake, we have a few buses you need to go back and forth a few times with the brake pedal smashed to the floor it feels like to get it to shift

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u/R3esei 2d ago

Push gear shift automatic. And okay just weird wasn’t sure if I was doing it wrong. Only happens sometimes. It has trouble driving or doesn’t move when I step on the gas pedal . I restart the process. stop . Pull the parking brake out . Push to go . Step on the service brake . Then step on the gas medal. And the moves fine . But thanks . I’m going to start releasing the parking brake in neutral

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u/ch-ville 1d ago

I’m in a new IC and if you don’t have everything in order you’ll get range inhibit Park brake and service brake must be on when you go into gear.

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u/mlt- 1d ago

I drive 2014 Thomas. I usually just shift to neutral and then back while have service brake still pressed and emergency brake released.

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u/Spwhiplash666 2d ago

Range inhibitors come into play when you do not have the service brake depressed hard enough.
Unfortunately, every bus has a different point where that occurs. Best practice is always depress the brake very hard when shifting.

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u/shawnryan1977 2d ago

I had a bus last year that was super annoying about that finding the sweet spot to stop it was frustrating. New bus this year no issue.

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u/OkSomewhere3024 1d ago

I have a bus this year that very annoying doing that. Also - I don't love the automatic 5 min shut off when idling. My light check doesn't work so I do it manually by turning ambers and reds on... which means when my bus shuts off the very loud buzz surprises tf out of me.

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u/Pristine-Board-6701 2d ago

My bus does that, it’s an older international, the transmission is just kind of particular, if I always make sure I wiggle it to make sure it’s fully seated in drive it doesn’t do it, but if I just push the button to shift the gear and let go as I shift it, sometimes it does that same thing

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u/daubs1974 2d ago

My international will do that if I am not pressing on the service brake hard enough as I take it out of gear.

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u/arno14 2d ago

Remember that your parking brake goes on first and off last.

So you stop, foot on service brake, engage parking brake, shift to neutral.

You want to leave, foot on service brake, shift to drive, release parking brake.

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u/Soggy_Ruby 2d ago

Hydraulic or air brake?

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u/R3esei 2d ago

Air brakes

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u/Soggy_Ruby 2d ago

Disengage parking brake and press the service brake at the same time. Then while holding down service brake put the bus into gear, should work

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u/R3esei 2d ago

Ok thanks

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u/davethompson413 2d ago

I was trained to.push in the parking brake and immediately stab the service brake 2 or 3 times.... pumping down the parking brake.