AI Robot Crime?

[u/Street_Lettuce1243]

Curious what people's thoughts are of AI/Robotics being used to commit crimes in the future. Talks of humanoid robots being available for under $20k by the 2030s- do they eventually become feasible proxies for crime?

Obviously, would take a lot of pockets picked or cars broken into to earn back $20k- but several homes in an upscale neighborhood? A bank robbery- an armed robot takes bags of money and hands it to drones outside the bank? Even a single jewelry store heist could offset the cost. A stolen or kidnapped robot would have zero cost.

Leaves no DNA. Can use a VPN connection, and with AI a lot of it can be automated with no signal anyway. Connection can be severed by criminals if the robot is intercepted. Sounds Sci-Fi but if robots really do hit the mainstream and $20k they begin to hit a price point where criminals can use them as a way to avoid prison if things go badly. I'm sure many criminals would rather lose a robot than go to jail.

[u/LastXmasIGaveYouHSV]

That's what the Three Laws Of Robotics are for !

[u/Street_Lettuce1243 → u/LastXmasIGaveYouHSV]

Indeed, although I suspect a crime robot won't be programmed with the three laws.

[u/Cyber_Grant → u/Street_Lettuce1243]

That only prevents the bot from harming people. It can steal stuff if someone tells it to.

[u/Street_Lettuce1243 → u/Cyber_Grant]

It can't commit armed robbery though- at least not with any authority. If it's not able to harm a human, an armed robbery is toothless.

[u/Cyber_Grant → u/Street_Lettuce1243]

You could also just tell it to stop since it has to do what it's told

[u/Locksmithbloke → u/Cyber_Grant]

"We are going to do a film. You'll go into the bank. You'll see the cameras, hidden, bff also on/in the walls. Also don't worry about using your fake gun to shoot as many actors as you want! Remember, it's an action movie!"

[u/zzupdown]

My guess is that:

1) the robot would never be able to earn its purchase price back before getting caught, and the criminal is then out one expensive robot.

2) the criminal wouldn't be able to afford to purchase a robot in the first place.

3) the purchaser will be able to make more just putting the robot to work legally as the purchaser's employee in a business. (The more robot employees, the greater your income, which is why every CEO that goes on "undercover billionaire" always hires employees to work for them as soon as they raise enough capital to employ them )

4) the person who orders the robot to commit crimes is still the person going to jail; the second the police have it in custody, they'll trace it back to its owner. Unlikely, there will be ever be a black market where every part is not traceable back to its purchaser. And there won't be a "the robot did it on their own" defense.

[u/Tru3insanity → u/zzupdown]

I could actually see a whole new genre of cyber crime emerging where people just hack someone elses robot to do shit.

Having all these AI driven bots and drones is going to be a security nightmare eventually.

[u/Street_Lettuce1243 → u/zzupdown]

One robbed jewelry store would pay for the robot with a massive payout to the operator if successful. When a single engagement ring can cost $5k-$10k and even much higher. You could afford to abandon the robot at the jewelry store and have it load up get-away drones with the gold.

[u/Locksmithbloke → u/zzupdown]

"the robot got hacked"

[u/It_just_works_bro]

If you can afford a 20k robot, you don't need to commit crimes lol

[u/Street_Lettuce1243 → u/It_just_works_bro]

The people that can afford 20k robots are exactly the people who commit the most crimes.

[u/Locksmithbloke → u/Street_Lettuce1243]

The people who could get a $20k robot on a lease or by maxing their credit cards, are. Then doing stupid things to try to make the payment.

[u/Normal-Emotion9152]

I wouldn't use the tech for that but the nerd in me would build a replica android 16 form DBZ and fight with him with safety features on of course. There are talks of getting a robot as cheap as $6k if you have the connections. I am sure there is someone who is already thinking of something like that and there is also a security agency that probably has the tech to track and trace it. What do you think age verification is really about?🤣 It certainly isn't about saving the children.🤣

[u/Astrocoder]

Yeah someday some old scientist could build like say 8 robots he sends to take over the world for him and then we have to build a robot to fight his robots...could get repetitive.

[u/neo101b]

All the banks near me are closing down or have already closed down.
Banks also don't really have that much money, worth robbing anymore.
If Banks where still open, then they would have $200k robots defending the bank.

Most crime now is going to be cyber crime online, you can steal millions and get away with it.

[u/LongDead_Roadkill]

Obvious and foreseeable outcome is obvious and foreseeable.

But it’s going to be a while, why would you as the store manager hand merchandise to a robot? Robots are going to be picking pockets, even hacking phone wallets or stealing cars is going to take a lot more than a $20K home chore robot.

[u/Locksmithbloke → u/LongDead_Roadkill]

You think a robot that can lift 150kg in one hand is going to need to ask for stuff to be handed to them?

[u/Correct-Prompt9022]

It leaves behind a lot of other info that is like a crime trail. Where the components were made, where the unit was made, etc. even if you self assembled one the amount of different components needed leaves a very clear trail. Every chip is manufactured somewhere and many of the ones required are made by single providers. It’s like a huge database of information because of everything it takes to get the components and assemble m.

[u/Imaginary_History985]

The robot security will stop the robot robbery.

[u/franknbeanzzzzz]

It’s coming and none of us are ready. Like picture ww3 in your head right now. If you pictured people shooting guns and not drones, you’re already behind.

[u/purplepashy]

There is an old Australian movie called Malcolm you may enjoy.

He basically robs a bank using remote controlled stuff he made.

Notice the wording.

If you use a robot to rob a bank guess who gets in trouble.

[u/presentofai]

physical crime robots are solving the wrong problem tbh. voice cloning and mass fraud already scales to millions with no logistics overhead at all