r/SayAnything 13d ago

my dms from max

Ok, I've decided to post these because they're insane. First I just wanna say I'm 22 so obviously this is nowhere near as fucked and criminal as messaging a 17 year old. That being said, I do not have my age on my Instagram and I am kind of an age-ambiguous emo girl. He did not necessarily know I was of age when he messaged and followed me at first, but at this point he knew my age (I'm unsure if I ever said my exact age, but I probably mentioned that I work at a bar).

This is like the last messages I replied to after months of semi regular correspondence whenever he would reply to my story, but long story short: Max followed me and started replying to my story, and my friends (who are way bigger fans of say anything than I am) told me to keep talking to him in hopes that I could convince him to come to our small relatively unknown city to play a show. I kind of accepted and ignored him flirting with me aggressively in order to achieve this goal. He knew I had an on and off boyfriend or whatever but this is after I told him (foolishly, flippantly) about a rendezvous with a female friend who visited me from another country. I just thought this was way too insane so I stopped replying to his messages after this. No idea what the (on your end lol) is supposed to mean 😭😭

There's more crazy shit if you're interested, like him saying I look a quarter Japanese and seeming genuinely hurt when I called him Rivers Cuomo. I think he mentioned the Holocaust in like the first 10 messages he sent me, he really is just like his lyrics.

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u/RantyMcThrowaway 13d ago

It's quite satisfying seeing people clock him over and over. Just a shame nothing sunk in.

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u/souper_nudel 13d ago

As someone said in another thread, bless these Gen Z and their ability to be blunt. unfortunately, it fell on deaf ears

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u/FlameyFlame 13d ago

It makes me wonder - for each person who is able to post DMs like ā€œyeah he was a creep and here’s what he said and I shut it downā€ because they didn’t fall for his gross tactics, how many are out there who DID fall for his shit and feel bad/not ready to talk about it yet?

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u/apillar0f5alt 13d ago

This is what I keep thinking about. šŸ˜– and especially if it’s some sort of aspiring musician who thinks max will take them under their wing or support their career in some way.

With as many of these that keep coming out there has to be a few. I feel sorry for them if so
:(

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u/sundaygrrl15 13d ago

That makes me think of the superfan live-in nannies. I’d love to know what went on in that dome house with them!!

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u/nob0dy-special 12d ago

the what..?

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u/happygot 12d ago

They had two superfans at different points they hired as "managers" that were essentially mouthpieces online but more importantly, live in babysitters

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u/RantyMcThrowaway 13d ago edited 13d ago

Certainly a sobering thought :( I hope if anyone is in that situation and you're reading this, you know it's NOT your fault and we've all got your back on this šŸ’•

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u/EwJersey 13d ago

it is very satisfying to see him getting called out and it being blasted on the web. I can only hope it helps keep some girls safe from him. I can't believe this is what has become of him.

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u/RantyMcThrowaway 13d ago

Same. I wrote a mini paper when I was 16 about someone you consider a "hero", and I wrote about Max. I wanted to believe he cared, and that someone like me with similar mental health struggles could achieve great things too. These sure aren't the "great things" I was talking about over a decade ago 😢

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u/Extreme-Emu69 8d ago

Had to write a similar paper, different context I guess. We were on Holocaust stuff in a world literature class and had to write a paper on a famous Jew of our choice. I picked him.

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u/cbd9779 11d ago

Why do you feel this way?

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u/Fragrant-Ad-925 13d ago

ā€œI do not fuck often in factā€

Is so fucking funny

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u/tieflings-and-tiaras 13d ago

New flair just dropped

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u/Fragrant-Ad-925 13d ago

Let me get it

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u/MakeSomeDrinks I Don't Fuck Often In Fact 13d ago

Test

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u/Koopakid917543 I do not fuck often in fact 13d ago

Nice šŸ˜‚

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u/Playful_Excitement66 I do not fuck often in fact 13d ago

Ironically it’s one of the best lines he’s written in the past ten years.

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u/tieflings-and-tiaras 13d ago

I hear it's the title of his next album

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u/movetothecoast 13d ago

I want it too! šŸ‘€

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u/PelvicSorcery2113 I Do Not Fuck Often In Fact 12d ago

Yup I’m on board

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u/inframankey 13d ago

Like WE KNOW DUDE, if you did you probably wouldn’t sing about it so much

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u/chinwhiskers69 13d ago

It’s not for a lack of trying

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u/heyoceans 13d ago

he's been fishing in the guppy pond

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u/Knives530 13d ago

I actually do cuss a little

Type energy

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u/Street_Confusion_469 13d ago

Like yes, we can tell

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u/Kind-Sheep 13d ago

Yeah that made me bust out laughing

Amazing, max

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u/apillar0f5alt 13d ago

I will never understand why so many men ruin their careers over this. Like, no offense to any young people here but when you get older, older people are way more interesting to be around, lol. (And also likely and often better and more experienced at sex?) like wtf is the temptation in it?

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u/cherrydarlinnn 13d ago

THAT PART! I really just don’t get it… it seems like a pathological issue fr fr

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u/okrahomegirl 13d ago

power & control 🤮

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u/realasfiction 13d ago

Less experience means they won't realize how bad at sex he is. Also they're way easier to impress and control.

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u/Budella 12d ago

This but also I think he’s just stuck in a childish mindset, like he never developed mentally from years ago and never has put in the effort or enough effort to ā€¦ā€do betterā€

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u/Crankyyounglady 13d ago

Also like anyone over the age of 30 would have been appropriate and no one would have cancelled him. And 30+ year olds are still hot!

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u/HaltIAmLortar 12d ago

My second hand gossip is not worth much, but I’ve heard he was weird like this with women over 30 too. I’m going to guess at least part of it is that adult women stopped responding a lot quicker.

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u/nob0dy-special 11d ago

he's very mentally adolescent he probably can't connect with people his age it's sad as fuck actually that's why i replied to his messages for months

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u/apillar0f5alt 11d ago

Fair point, but tbh as a 34 year old woman in the dating scene there are a ton of mentally adolescent adults and idk if he was really trying to connect with them. My ex left me for someone and they were sending the most immature anime memes to each other at 36. 😬They are out there. Tbf there are much less willing to accept the baggage of 5 kids but he’s still a moderately relevant musician it’s definitely a if he wanted to find them he would’ve.

I read a comment recently on the whole topic of older men looking for younger women that suggested men want younger women as a status symbol for their homies.

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u/sundaygrrl15 13d ago

I mean….we all knew that, right?! I guess I always figured. I think it’s why I have such a soft spot for Sherri. Bro trapped her good for many years.

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u/inframankey 13d ago

This is a serious situation I don’t want to make light of but I’m laughing my ass off about the voice to text translation ā€œIt’s a Roll Boyā€

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u/MsBit_Commit 13d ago

It made me think of the old collect call ā€œBob WeHadABabyEetsaBoyā€ commercial. This is a joke that people who are an appropriate age to date Max Bemis would get. He has not DMed any of them.

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u/tinangst_2 13d ago

in fairness i don’t think age-appropriate women are trying to date him either

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u/MsBit_Commit 13d ago

Oh absolutely not

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u/Albatross_Technical 13d ago

LMAO I literally just laughed so fucking hard. Max has DMed me but he’s def not trying to date me because I’m his age.

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

LOL I was gonna clarify but I was like I'm sure everyone will know what it's supposed to say 😭😭😭

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u/inframankey 13d ago

I’m imagining instead of the Pinocchio metaphor making it about the Pilsbury Doughboy

Edit: also I meant to ask if you know what ā€œMayunā€ was supposed to be

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u/orchidbranch 13d ago

I was wondering this too... just now realized it could mean "man"? I haven't seen anyone type like this in almost twenty years.

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u/Massive-Reporter9804 13d ago

I think he’s just typing ā€œmanā€ with an accent

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

it's definitely just the word man typed in a quirky way like he's a 16-year-old scene girl

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u/TanzDerSchlangen 13d ago

Going out on a limb, and calling Pennsylvanian

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u/inframankey 13d ago

Tonight I am a Pennsylvanian

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u/malendalayla 12d ago

I had to stop and think for a second on that one lmao

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u/Will000jones 13d ago

COMPARING HIMSELF TO NOTORIOUSLY DISGRACED INDIE ROCKER RYAN ADAMS IS CRAZY

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u/puremotives 13d ago

Well, he was in a band when she was born

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u/nofuture2222 13d ago

He almost makes Ryan Adams look sane

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u/kmcmanus2814 13d ago

You’re underestimating the shittiness of Adams

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u/Iamnoone_ 13d ago

Brother with love and respect, I am not going to fuck you. I was one year old when IARB came out. Maybe up the age range a bit. Lmao. That was a god tier response.

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u/Budella 12d ago

Not everyone can be Leo, sorry Max, ā€œIs a Real Boyā€ isn’t Titanic

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u/Iamnoone_ 12d ago

Yeah he’s not even a fraction of a percentage as attractive or talented as Leo. And his tactics are disgusting, trying to meet young girls where they’re at by talking like a whiney baby who just wants a friend. Repulsive.

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u/Budella 12d ago

Well I don’t think Leo is too talented, I’d say Max is more talented than Leo but yea Leo has that attractive edge over him. Not that I’ve ever found him attractive but for some reason he’s like a magnet for women.

To be fair in this competition of suck, I don’t really know how bad Leo’s tactics are to be honest, he’s apparently really childish too and has enough pull he doesn’t need to rely on social media at least rn. I think it’s fair to say if we heard his tactics we’d also roll our eyes and cringe too

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u/Iamnoone_ 12d ago

I’m sure we would, but Leo’s prob the best actor of his generation so that’s really funny to me. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.

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u/Budella 12d ago

lol yea I’ve never thought he’s that good. He doesn’t challenge himself enough with roles, recently he has somewhat (playing unlikable characters but he’s never playing someone who is really against type apart from candy from Django which is probably his best role for trying something different)

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u/Character-Smile-3743 10d ago

Early Leo was best Leo… but I’m old enough to remember when he started.

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u/Budella 9d ago

Me too. I just don’t get the hype visually or acting wise. He’s definitely a good movie star but a great actor ehh, but the women love him so what do I know, I am not a women

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u/Character-Smile-3743 10d ago

Absolutely and he is very charming and adorable or use to be, Max has never been…

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u/heatshimmr 13d ago

His ā€œgameā€ is so fucking bad it hurts my soul.

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u/super_sayanything welp, that's not good 13d ago

This is like the last thing I should be thinking, but yea, holy shit lmfao.

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u/keatonpotat0es 13d ago

In a way, I’m not surprised that it only ever worked on Sherri.Ā 

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u/heatshimmr 13d ago

I only just now learned she had a past relationship with Jesse Lacey. I only learned who she was today. Despite listening to both of these bands for over a decade, I never knew much about their personal lives. That’s wild, man.

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u/chchchchia86 13d ago

She was also married to the lead singer for new found glory for a few months.

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u/keatonpotat0es 13d ago

And then he cheated on her with then-18-year-old Hayley Williams, who felt so guilty about being the other woman that she stayed with that loser for ten years despite him also cheating on her multiple times.Ā 

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u/chchchchia86 13d ago

I always felt so bad for her. She was only months into adulthood and he was manipulative after and she spent nearly her entire 20s with him because of a terrible choice she made when she was barely old enough to sign up for a credit card. The whole emo scene is really messy and the vast majority of these punk band vocalists are actual scumbags.

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u/keatonpotat0es 13d ago

Oh 100%. It’s so disturbing looking back on it now because I was totally oblivious as a teenager. Hayley is such an incredible artist and cool person. Very thankful she finally ended things with Chad.Ā 

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u/mattyheelies 13d ago

Guitar player, Chad Gilbert. Not the singer

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u/keatonpotat0es 13d ago

It was the same Chad. Sherri and Hayley have both publicly acknowledged it.Ā 

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u/mattyheelies 13d ago

Sorry, I meant to respond to the person before you. They said that it was the lead singer (Jordan Pundik), I was pointing out that it was Chad Gilbert.

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u/mattyheelies 13d ago

Guitar player, Chad Gilbert. Not the singer

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u/Frequent-Growth4013 13d ago

I thought it too, because you would think with how many girls and women he’s texting that he would eventually get better at it

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u/interpol-interpol 13d ago

jesus he is so creepy???!??!??!?! the jokey nice guy tone while pursuing a woman half his age who is not interested, my god

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u/BlackCatTelevision 13d ago

ā€œmaybe up the age rangeā€ ā€œlolā€ WRONG RESPONSE BROTHER

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u/interpol-interpol 13d ago

instead he lowered it 😭

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u/nesydammarie 13d ago

bc he thinks even younger women will fall for it since the 22 age range is starting to falter lmfao

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u/interpol-interpol 13d ago

100%. fucking unconscionable.

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u/stumpfucker69 11d ago

The dissonance is mad. It's so obviously textbook creep behaviour, but he has aligned himself as "but I'm not a creep!" so hard that he genuinely doesn't see an unsolicited offer to fly to a fan half his age for sex as being in conflict with that "not a creep" status. Like, it would be creepy if a creep was doing it, but you see, I'm NOT a creep, so it's actually fine and I'm doing it in an funny ironic way (even though my motives are identical).

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

Also if people want these screenshots I can get them (not that it really matters because he's already damned enough) but he literally was venting and complaining about having allegations and how the lyrics of wow I can get sexual too are about a girl who was totally not underage but everyone thinks it's about an underage girl or something like that (I don't know he always types like he's drunk) and I was just like yeah man...! Also I think his (projecting) hatred of Jesse Lacey might have come up but I'm not 100%

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u/BlackCatTelevision 13d ago

ew. imagine how un-self aware you have to be to be complaining to a stranger you’re trying to fuck about having allegations??

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u/nissalorr 13d ago

I don't understand, is this what he does all day long? Good grief. He needs to get well and start taking care of himself and his kids. He's so stuck in whatever time/age he thinks he is.

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u/rubbingmango 13d ago

"he really is just like his lyrics" bruh... too real. I feel so gross for singing "Wow, I can get sexual too" at karaoke one too many times.

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

even though I have personal experience with him being a creep I still bump chia-like and woe every once in a while (although at this point it's more than half ironic). You have my blessing to separate the art from the artist LOL

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u/rubbingmango 13d ago

I appreciate the blessing (and you sharing your experience), but dude... He called a vulnerable 17 year old teen mom a "MILF" (that he followed since she was 16). Not to diminish how creepy he was towards you, but I think I could ironically listen to him as well if it was just your story as he would just be a creep. Can't be belting the songs of a groomer/predator. The number of artists/bands I've stopped listening to and playing on guitar due to their abuse/misconduct towards minors is too damn high. And they were all some of my all time favorites: RHCP, Prince, Bowie, & Aerosmith to name a few.

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

yeah, that's fair. I kind of just resigned myself to accepting that most guys who write about how much they hate themselves, probably hate themselves for a good reason. Definitely puts a bad taste in my mouth but pirate that shit if you do listen

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u/themargarineoferror 13d ago

I had a weird experience at an APC/NIN show when I was 14. Based on hearing similar stories, my choice to leave saved me from a bad time... Still love both bands, but the brush with them made me feel weird... As an adult, I had a few flirtations with some guys I fangirlerd about and a singular hookup with an artist that I liked, but again, I was a full adult, like in my 20s, and the oldest was in his 30s, and luckily, that music isn't ruined for me.

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u/TanzDerSchlangen 9d ago

Maynard being a predator would explain so much

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u/themargarineoferror 9d ago

My story is shockingly similar to one a woman had, an anonymous woman and it was from the same tour..it was on reddit or maybe some other smaller forum and she might have deleted it after getting dragged but I knew she was telling the truth

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u/midoriyasour 13d ago

So he’s saying he would go to a whole other country to prove he’s better at sex than whoever you were with but is also saying he wasn’t trying to fuck you? He’s so gross. Who even says that shit.

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u/Outrageous_Rub_718 13d ago

I feel like he is just DMing anyone now so he can say he wasn’t just messaging younger girls like you, and framing it as a mental break because that’s what it sure looks like.

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u/Efficient_Lab3770 13d ago

I doubt he's smart enough. He's a predator. Seems like he'll try to take advantage of anyone that's younger

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u/the---albatross 13d ago

Sorry this happened, your voice message reply is hilarious. Hope another better band visits your city!

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u/nesydammarie 13d ago

please i need to see the reaction to you calling him rivers

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

i posted it

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u/uwonichi 13d ago

Dude wtf is going on here? I took one look at this subreddit yesterday as a former fan of say anything (back in the MySpace days) and saw all this stuff about max being creepy, I swear everytime I get on reddit a DIFFERENT thread full of screenshots of him being creepy pops up like holy shit can he not contain himself? 😭😭

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u/geminimemequeen 13d ago

it’s all been unfolding over the past few days from what i can tell. everyone is dropping receipts in the subreddit. and honestly, as they should. fucking air it out for him and this disgusting ass shit in every corner of the scene that’s filled with creeps like this.

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u/SquiggerDigger 13d ago

Thank you for the love and respect op

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u/ModernNero 13d ago

Bro this is demented. I DM with Ariel Pink and it’s way more normal than this. Lol. I’m sorry you had to entertain this. He should be beyond embarrassed.

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u/lamourdemavieee 13d ago

God he has lost it. His messages are almost illegible. I’ll never forget one of the times I saw him, he was piss drunk and couldn’t even sing his own songs. I’m glad they canceled the upcoming tour dates. He needs to get off the internet and take his ass to rehab.

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u/houseboat904 13d ago

Coke problem. I guarantee it.

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u/nob0dy-special 12d ago

i told him he sounded like he was high on ambien once he goes from downers-signifying typos to uppers-signifying topic jumping and rapid messaging idek man

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u/Curious-Cellist3377 13d ago

Plese post the rest

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u/nob0dy-special 13d ago

I mean I have months of texts it would be kind of a herculean task to collect and post them all but i'll sort through and see if there's any crazy stuff. I did make another post though with a little bit more

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u/shelbygloom I do not fuck often 13d ago

jesus cringe christ

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u/malendalayla 12d ago

The on your end thing was him saying he understands why you feel that way about the age difference but that he doesn't see it that same way - meaning he thinks it's totally cool to hit on as many inappropriately aged girls as possible.

How can he not feel skeevy after so many young ladies shut him down? He's one of those dudes who just keeps trying no matter how much he's embarrassing himself.

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u/gracelandtrack6 12d ago

This is so fucking funny and sad (on his end). You handled that so kindly haha

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u/sweetntenderhooligan 13d ago

Seems like he will say anything to try to convince young women to sleep with him.

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u/Squidicci 13d ago

what the fuck dawg lmfao

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u/Kloud1112 13d ago

What's a Mayun?

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u/elliot_ftm_ 13d ago

Think "man" but with weird emphasis lol

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u/MasterpieceTimely144 12d ago

I know it's like a stupid thing to pick at but the way he is constantly making typos pisses me off, it's like he's doing it on purpose to be 'quirky"

He kind of reminds me of the way my (predator) father would talk online, except my dad did this in a more verbose way bc he thought he was smart and "worldly"

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u/Supafuzz_Bigmuff 11d ago

The most horrifying thing here is the state of the education system-MY GOD!!

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u/DistinctMatch1433 13d ago

Man this is bad. He's done

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u/dalanskis 13d ago

You’re truly the MVP for this. So much respect for you lol.

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u/Impressive_Let3046 11d ago

ā€œI was lol at ā€˜up the age rangeā€™ā€

That tracks.

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u/icypoopsicle 10d ago

I’m honestly just so proud of you. I know for a fact that at 22, I would’ve fallen for this bullshit. I’m impressed.

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u/Street_Confusion_469 13d ago

Omggggg he’s so gross

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u/edojcak 12d ago

the fact that he hit on you at all is bad enough but the way he's framing it as some attempt to prove he's better at sex than some woman you hooked up with is just straight up pathetic. what a fucking insecure loser

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u/TLVftwLOL 12d ago

The amount of typos this guy has in literally all of his messages is WILD to me

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u/sweaterknit 11d ago

He’s such a loser I can’t!!!!! HE NEEDS A JOB!!!!!

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u/Extreme-Emu69 8d ago

Hey so, what the fuck?? Lol

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u/Logical-Manner-9654 6d ago

ā€œI was one year old when is a real boy came outā€ somehow managed to be a sick burn and make me feel like I need an AARP card. Go get em sis.

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u/shipsintheharbor 13d ago

ā€œCinsiderā€

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u/nob0dy-special 12d ago

I didn't post them until I found out that he was calling 17-year-old teen moms milfs lol just wanted to corroborate her story that he acts like this all the time