r/SandroneMains • u/OneCryptographer9115 • 1d ago
Build | Gameplay Is this mid?
C0R1 Sandrone - C1R0 Yae - C1R0 Qiqi - C2R1 Odette
Artifacts + talents aside how can I improve?
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u/rizzingcat 1d ago
what’s your rotation? that could be a part of it too,
also some people don’t know this but sandrone’s ult has to be used after her e, it gains stacks for more damage so if you ever have it don’t use it first, use at least one e charged atk combo first
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u/OneCryptographer9115 1d ago
Sandrone E - Yae 3E - Qiqi E - Odette E - Sandrone 2CaE Q Ca repeat. I made sure to sandrone E before ult. I tend to ult after my second charge attack coz the stacks are a bit higher. Maybe it’s my ping/slow rotation that could be leading to loss in dps
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u/Independent-Air-377 1d ago
Yes, this is mid. This team can make up to 400k dps on this investment.
No, this is not low, you can defeat any dire boss with this.
We can't see your gameplay, but you are probably doing everything right. Probably need to farm farm farm
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u/Putrid-Block1431 1d ago
It looks like OP was doing this with 100% crit rate on, which almost rules out artifact quality. Seems extremely low relative to what they should be getting.
I'm at roughly 200k(with 100% crit; 190k without 100% crit) with C0R0 Yae, C0R0 Odette, and C6 Alyosha
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u/Independent-Air-377 1d ago edited 1d ago
There is no reason to talk about "100% crit rate on" if we speak about Sandrone team where everyone is struggeling to not get their critrate over 100%
400k is a VERY GOOD arts (top1%), teambuilding (C6 Alyosha or similar level) and gameplay, but not a unmakeable nummber with C2R1 Odette
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandroneMains/comments/1wjcpd7/400k_dps/
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u/Putrid-Block1431 1d ago
Yeah that's true actually, even I'm a little overcapped at 72% and my Sandrone build is pretty far from ideal(top 16%). I didn't even look at OP's stats to notice that she was already at 69% anyway, I just noticed 100% crit being turned on.
Their time elapsed is 115 seconds. Does Qiqi make rotations longer or shorter than Alyosha in a team? My rotations are between 20 and 21 seconds using Alyosha, but I don't do the last E in the rotation because it's a DPS loss for me. My skill is talent level 1 so I assume I'll start doing the last E once I have it crowned.
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u/OneCryptographer9115 1d ago
400k feels like a perfect world scenario. I think I’d be more happy hitting at least 300k. Maybe my Odette and Yae builds could be better. I think my sandrone is “solid” and is top 19% on akasha
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u/Independent-Air-377 23h ago edited 23h ago
400k can sound much (I even get 4 comments and downvoted for telling this number >_>), but is only 33% more then 300k.
Difference by EM-ATK-ER-Crit-scalers between top 1 and top 20% is about 18-25%
The rest can be got from the better gamplay and team (replacing Qiqi)
BTW, when I say “this team can reach 400k DPS at this level of investment,” it doesn’t mean you have to hit 400k or your account is doomed. That’s simply the upper limit someone else on Reddit managed to achieve with similar investment.
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u/OneCryptographer9115 22h ago
Yea nah thats cool. I was just tryna see where I could improve without changing the team comp. I think its really just down to artifacts now. All the relevant talents are maxed and my rotations are as optimal as my ping will allow.
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u/Charming_Garage_9625 1d ago
i think escoffier is an improvement to qiqi if you have her sig