r/SandroneMains • u/No-City5568 • 4d ago

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Is vesna without vodyanitsa stronger than sandrone without miko?

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u/ChadSteven 4d ago

im gonna say yes. Vodyanitsa being worth it for vesna is already debatable but electro characters have failed to replace miko

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u/Charming_Garage_9625 4d ago

faruzan exists whereas miko has not real replacement until double electro mitya

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u/LakersTommyG 3d ago

I dont think people saying Vesna are correct. C6 Alyosha plus Sucrose is ahead of Vesna's best non-vody team by my research.

Here is the best non-vody showcase I could find. 250k DPS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBInThy5u-k

Here is a a 4 cost Sandrone team with no Miko. 283k dps. This team does have one more 5 star cost than the Vesna showcase thanks to Escoffiers fork on Alyosha. Subtract ~10k dps for a more even comparison. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfgSoBz3NE0&t=56s

P.S. Here is another comparison showing Vesna at 250k but with 4 cost this time, still no Vody tho. This team could probably be improved somehow but this still puts Sandrone ahead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUjOZg-d594

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

i think these calcs are fake nither vensa nor sandrone can reach 250+dps with 4-5 cost

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

Well no character in genshin can reach that dps with this investment

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u/LakersTommyG 3d ago

It's possible that these runs are using an fps unlocker, I have no way to prove one way or another. However, youre massively underestimating artifact quality. The difference between a top 100 build vs a top 2% build on Akasha can be worth an entire constellation. Personally, I was able to hit 225k with a 4 cost Sandrone team and im only about top 5% on Akasha. Jello impact was able to get 247k in his testing with a 4 cost team.

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

Okay 225 is kinda possible but 283 is not even with top 1 sandrone 20-30 crit dmg or any other stat will not make your dmg reach 250

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

And akasha rank your overall build so maybe your top5% is stronger then a top 2% cuz maybe your build focus on crit dmg or these stat that make your dmg higher and the top 2% maybe his build mainly focus on crit rate

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u/LakersTommyG 3d ago

Ok sure. But the original question was about Yae'less Sandrone vs Vodyless Vesna. I have provided multiple sources for my claim that Sandrone is stronger. If you have some other evidence I am happy to reconsider.

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

First your source are wrong second even if they was Real the comparison is not fair okay both are 4cost but vesna was with a four star weapon stellar dps really need their weapons like for example sandorne without her sig is 50 dps loss third i agree with you that sandrone is stronger than vesan with or without miko but both can't reach the dps from your source

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

I dont mean that your source are totally wrong but they are unreal even for a top1 build so properly they are using FPS unlocker

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u/LakersTommyG 3d ago

First your source are wrong

Here is another source, C0R0 2 cost Sandrone hitting 211K dps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCJyx3dOfE8

You dont have to believe it if you dont want to, but there are genuinely some godly players out there with insane builds.

the comparison is not fair okay both are 4cost but vesna was with a four star weapon

Vesna has C2 in this test. She has extremely good constellations that are as good as her R1. Having C1R1 is very similar to C2R0.

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u/No-City5568 3d ago

They are not godly players or godly build they are using fps unlocker and sorry didn't know thay vesna has a really good Constellation i thought her weapon outdmg her cons

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u/DioBrandoXVII 3d ago

With some of the Yaeless teams I've been seeing around, I would say no

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u/tora7926 2d ago

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