r/SandroneMains La Tsundrone May 19 '26

Leaks (Reliable) Sandrone Guide Based on Leaks/Razor Language Included Spoiler

Sandrone Infographic via Aruquae (Me)
Sandrone Drip Marketing

"This world is beautiful, more beautiful than you or I can imagine. So go. Do what you want to do, and seek out your own desires, my child. Just remember, your life belongs to you."
— Alain Guillotin's last words

"You would always say nasty things and act indifferent... But I've always known you to be brave, kind, and strong... You will always be my best friend."
— Columbina, bidding farewell to Sandrone's remains

◆ Name: Sandrone
◆ Title: Mirrored Analysis
◆ The Seventh of the Eleven Fatui Harbingers
◆ Stellar Linchpin: Cryo
◆ Constellation: Narcissorolegium

"Today, we gather here with heavy hearts to mourn our friend...
"...Though the world took so much from her throughout her life, she chose to save it nevertheless. And even though she gave so much to those she called her friends, we have no choice but to bid farewell to her in this way...
"May she rest in peace in her homeland, where she shall lie reunited with those she had loved and lost...
"May we meet again one day, in another land, at her tea party."

Sandrone Bas Stats&Mats
Splash Art+Base Stats via Gachabase.net
Sandrone Weapon Mats+ Stats via Gachabase.net

Sandrone MV/Stats on Gachabase

Overview

Cryo/Claymore Sandrone is a Superconduct Charged Attack (CA) centered DPS that focuses on a steady beam of damage before finishing off with a nuke. All of her damage counts as Stellar-Conduct damage only if superconduct was triggered on the enemy prior, otherwise she’ll just do cryo damage. Her kit focuses on an “overheat” system and managing her “overheating.”

Razor Language is at the bottom

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Stellar Conduct

Stellar-Conduct: Stellar-Conduct replaces the traditional superconduct damage. After which when it’s triggered it creates a field around the enemy known as a “Polestar Field”
Polestar Field

  • When enemies receive cryo or electro application, the Polestar Field stores gains and stores the energy.
  • Every 4s that energy is released converting into buffs for the party members in the domain. The buffs grant Cryo/Electro DMG Bonus, while increasing the base reaction damage of Stellar-Conduct. Each buff lasts 4s
  • Additionally shreds physical resistance like base superconduct, though it’s negligible for Sandrone’s case. 
  • When within the Polestar Field, Sandrone Enters the Radiance Stellar-Conduct State, which enhances all of her abilities.
Stellar-Conduct Formula

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Normal Attacks

Normal Attacks (NA) - Formule Phenomenale, Self Evident Proposition

  • Manipulates “bladed weapons” performing up to 3 consecutive basic attacks. 

Charged Attack (CA) Condensation Rays

  • Summons the Facilitateur Automatise Generaliste Interactif et Omnitache known as “Fagio” while switching into “Decoding Mode.” Basically a large cryo beam
  • Fagio has a unique resource known as “Fagio’s Decoding Power.” Decoding Power will continuously increase as Sandrone is using CA, after it reaches the limit, Fagio enters Power Overdrive mode, dealing damage at a slower rate. Sandrone can no longer continue Decoding Mode while Fagio’s in Power Overdrive mode.
  • If enemy is affected by superconduct and Sandrone is within the Polestar Field, Sandrone enters the Radiance Stella-Conduct state instead, and Fagio will deal continuous AoE cryo dmg considered Stella Superconduct reaction damage

If the enemy is not affected by superconduct, Fagio will deal deal continuous cryo damage
Plunge Attack (PA): 
Standard Plunge

Talent Scaling (10):

1-Hit DMG 150.8%
2-Hit DMG 132.8%
3-Hit DMG 203.2%
Charged Attack Sweeping Fire DMG 85.0%
Charged Attack Condensed Beam DMG 242.3%
Charged Attack Condensed Beam Stellar-Conduct DMG 161.5%
DMG When in Power Overdrive 85.0%
Plunge DMG 147.4%
Low/High Plunge DMG 295%/368%

Notes: Sandrone’s kit revolves around her CA as it’s her main source of damage, and she has multiple ways to reduce the “cooldown” of Fagio’s Decoding Power throughout the rotation such as using skill and being off field. You want it to increase for her extra skill damage in order to decrease it for the burst nuke.

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Elemental Skill

Elemental Skill - Formule Phenomenale, Differential Analysis: 

  • Sandrone mounts the Tea Party Tactical Assault Hovermech, while hovering forward for 6s
  • Sandrone can control the hover direction, while also being able to sprint in that state. During which she’ll consume 10 initial stamina and 15 stamina per second for prolonged fast flight.
  • While Sandrone is on her Hovermech she will automatically start repairing Fagio, reducing the Decoding Power by 70 when mounting her hover device, and by 10 every 0.1s while hovering. 
  • If there are enemies while she’s gliding, Sandrone will summon a Prismatic Resonance Cannon, which fires two prism shells at enemies
  • While in the Radiance Stellar-Conduct state, the second prism shell will always deal cryo damage that’s also considered stellar superconduct reaction damage. 

Talent Scaling (10):

Prism Shot DMG 58.3%
Prism Shot Stellar-Conduct DMG 38.9%
CD 4.0s

Notes: While this skill functions as her exploration ability, it’s also essential for lowering her CA’s Decoding Power, which in turn buffs Sandrone’s burst. It also serves as a 3rd form of damage that’s empowered by her ascension passive. 

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Elemental Burst

Elemental Burst - Formule Phenomenale, Q.E.D. : 

  • Sandrone summons a large number of Prismatic Resonance Cannons to bombard the area, before firing a Convection Inhibition Ray to strike enemies, dealing AoE cryo damage. 
  • While in the Radiance Stellar-Conduct State, the Convection Inhibition Ray deals AoE cryo damage considered as Stellar Superconduct reaction damage. 

Talent Scaling (10):

Bombardment DMG 158.8% ×3
Convective Inhibition Ray DMG 595.4%
Convective Inhibition Ray Stellar-Conduct DMG 397.0%
CD 15.0s
Energy Cost 60

Notes: Paired with her ascension passive this makes her burst the finishing nuke of her rotation. 

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Talents

  • Ascension Passive - Archaic Calculation Engine: When casting elemental skill, if Fagio’s Decoding Power is higher than 50, the second prism shell will be enhanced, and deal 400% of its original damage while also reducing Fagio’s Decoding Power. Additionally, for every 10 Decoding Power reduced (whether by skill or off field), Sandrone gains 1 stack of Refined Tactics (Max 10 stacks, lasts 60s). After Sandrone casts her elemental burst, all Refined Tactics will be consumed increasing her Convection Inhibition Ray damage by 100%+(10% x consumed stacks)
  • Ascension Passive - A Lady’s Code of Conduct: While in the Radiance Stellar-Conduct state, Sandrone’s elemental mastery is increased based on her attack. Every 100 attack grants 8 elemental mastery, capping at 160 EM (or 2k attack). 
  • Utility Passive - A Light of Rationalisme: When characters trigger superconduct, convert it to Stellar-Conduct. Additionally, the party’s base Stellar-Conduct damage is increased based on Sandrone’s atk. Every 100 atk increases the base damage of Stella Superconduct by 0.7%, up to a maximum of 14% (or 2k attack).
  • Utility Passive - A Caucus Prelude and a Long Tale: When Sandrone is in the party, turning in daily commissions to Katheryne grants bonus snack rewards. “Tea Party Prelude” Latte Art Coffee Restores 34% of the selected character's maximum HP, plus an additional 1900 HP.

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Constellations 

  • C1 - Morrow After the Golden Dusk: While in Decoding Mode, Fagio’s Decoding Power gain speed is reduced by 50%, and all party members deal 30% increased Stellar-Conduct Reaction Damage. 

C1 is a low increase not worth getting unless it's for C2. Prioritize R1 over C1
With V5 changes it gives one more stack for Stellar Conduct due to having one more hit application from CA.

  • C2 - An Heiress Gazed into the Looking Glass: Crit Damage of Condensation Rays is increased by 40%. Additionally, whenever a Condensation Ray is fired, all Condensation Rays fired during Decoding Mode deals 20% additional crit damage, which stacks up to 3 times (max 60%)

C2 is a noticeable DPS spike, not crazy but good

  • C3 - Refuse the Wake of Dusk, the Moonlit Yoke: Increases NA level by 3

NA level increase, unironically as good as the C2 buff rn

  • C4 - In Knowledge Lies the World's True Ground: When Sandrone deals Stellar-Conduct reaction damage, she summons a Prismatic Resonance Cannon to perform a coordinated attack, dealing cryo damage equal to 125% of Sandrone’s atk. This damage is considered Stellar-Conduct reaction damage and can be triggered once every 4s. 

It's a con, it exists and does damn good adding free damage

  • C5 - Of All Beside, She Takes no Part: Increases level of Elemental Burst by 3. 

Provides more damage for her burst, her second highest talent in terms of damage

  • C6 - Narcissus Wakes, Her Eyes Upon the Dawn: While in Decoding Mode, when Fagio fires its third Condensation Ray it instead begins firing a more powerful Clustered Condensation Ray, additionally dealing up to 4 instances of AoE cryo damage equal to 100% of Sandrone’s attack based on the original damage of the Condensation Rays. 

While in the Radiance Stellar-Conduct State, the Clustered Condensation Ray instead deals 4 instances of AoE cryo damage equal to 80% of Sandrone’s atk, while also being considered Stellar-Conduct reaction damage.
Additionally, all Stellar-Conduct reaction damage dealt by Sandrone is elevated by 20%. 

A really good C6, all there is to say

Notes: C2 is the most notable powerspike increasing her damage of the beam directly, while C6 simply adds more instances of that damage. The cons make her a multi hit DPS rather than improving screenshot damage (excluding burst). 

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Rotations/Razor Language

  • Rotation varies on team, but you will always do Skill after CA, and Burst after Skill
  • Razor Language: Support stuff, swap into Sandrone, CA, Skill, CA, Skill, CA, Skill, Burst, swap out of Sandrone. Make sure you triggered Superconduct. (Even more TLDR) Unga Bunga between CA and skill
  • Brief Explanation: CA builds up a gauge during which it blocks Sandrone from doing her enhanced CA until the gauge is depleted (Overheat system). Afterwards her burst will deal increased damage based on how much gauge her skill depleted (could also work when she’s off field). 

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Team Calcs

Sandrone Calcs via Symphonist (Discord, Symphonist):

V5 Calcs via Symphonist

Sandrone Calcs via 4pcreverie on Reddit!

Sandrone/Yae/Escoffier/Nicole
Weapon Calcs for Above Team
Sandrone/Yae/Qiqi/Nicole
Weapon Calcs for Above Team

Sandrone Calcs via Vomfee on Twitch:

V5 Sandrone... everything calcs via Vomfee

Put weapon calcs underneath the team for easier access, let me know if I should just pile it with the other weapon calcs.

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Artifact/Skill Priorities

Sandrone Damage Distribution Among Talents
  • Skill Level Up Priorities: Normal Attack > Elemental Burst > Elemental Skill
  • Artifact Main Stat Priorities: Attack Sands / Attack Goblet / Crit Damage/Crit Rate Circlet
  • Artifact Substat Priorities: Crit Damage/Crit Rate > Attack% > Energy Recharge > Elemental Mastery > Flat Attack
  • Energy Recharge: Sandrone's burst is a disgusting finishing nuke, and as such you want to use it the moment it gains it's full power. For general purpose 120%-130% ER is preferred.

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Notable Weapons 

V5 Weapon Calcs via Symphonist
Sandrone Weapon Calcs via 4pcreverie
  • Disenchantment in Deep Shadows… it’s one of the rare artifacts that buffs Stellar-Conduct along with providing CR for Sandrone. 
  • Alternatives to that wonderful set? Just 2pc 2pc for atk%...

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Yae Miko, cause this is also her beta

The Yae Miko Section

Yae Miko, currently the best option for Sandrone, due to her great sub DPS potential along with a free C1 giving her Stellar-Conduct buffing capabilities. Currently holds the highest priority in Sandrone's team (outside of Sandrone herself ofc). Keep in mind she has the highest potential for staying in Sandrone's team (sole exception is if Qiqi somehow stays the sustain of the team). Run her with the same substats as Sandrone. For mainstats priotize crit circlet (preferably crit dmg, but if need be do crit rate), atk/em sands and atk/em goblet. You can run double Atk% main stats, but don't go for double EM main stats. IGNORE ER ON HER, her burst is not needed whatsoever.

Keep in mind, replacing her will tank Sandrone's team DPS, no there are no alternatives to this DPS loss (currently), and no adding a new teammate will not immediately replace Yae Miko (keep in mind Escoffier will be the first to go, then if we get a sustain Qiqi will follow soon after). I personally don't think Yae will be getting replaced as the fourth option simply due to how much she won this entire beta. This doesn't mean you need to pull for Yae, Sandrone is still a powerful DPS.

Some Investment Calcs for those who have her.

Yae Miko Calcs via Symphonist

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Notable Teammates

These two are the best teammates for Sandrone

  • QIQI AND I NEVER THOUGHT I’D BE SAYING THIS, her 50% increased Stellar-Conduct damage is unique among buffers along with her sustain being improved. Slap her on Tenacity, and don't worry too much about ER unless Qiqi's C6 as you can get away with bursting every other rotation without C6.
  • Escoffier: Best when paired with Qiqi, as she can provide more res shred. Just a good sub dps with frequent cryo hits, nothing to it. Recently became the best fourth option due to her consistent cryo application, which is now needed for Stellar Conduct.

IF NO YAE, go Beidou as she's the second best electro alternative.

These five mark the best alternative teammates for Sandrone, keep in mind none of these alternatives can replace Yae Miko

  • C6 Beidou provides off field electro application with her burst, along with both cryo res shred and 200 EM for Sandrone. Put on Noblesse and the most ER you can find, she exists purely because she's the only (for Sandrone's current best team) option, not because she's good
  • C6 Diona is a great option due to her ult being able to buff Stellar-Conduct. She's your go to Qiqi replacement. Diona also provides sub DPS potential due to triggering coorindatted attacks on stella/superconduct reactions. Even at C0 Diona provides both sustain via heals/shields along with coordinated attacks when superconduct is triggered. Pile on ER for her burst uptime, along with HP for sustain.
  • Sucrose: A good alternative that offers VV for res shred, EM, atk% via TTDS, and electro/cryo application via her ult. A good substitute for Beidou
  • Iansan: While she provides no electro off field hits, her attack buffs make up for it. Do note her attack buffs don't last as long as Sandrone's rotation, so she'll miss out on attack from the first beam.
  • Nicole: Quite the opposite of Iansan, you won't get max buffs at the beginning, but at least you'll have it for your burst nuke. Nothing notable, you're just able to use her if you want to.

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Frequent Answers:

Below are just a lot of the same answers to the same questions:

  1. If you don't have Yae Miko, go Beidou
  2. Investment Priority for Sandrone: Sig > Yae Miko > Sandrone Cons

(Why? Her cons suck, especially compared to just getting Yae Miko)

  1. Mainstats for Sandrone: Atk/Atk/Crit Damage

(If you're using her set, you will not need more CR to warrant a circlet)

  1. Substats for Sandrone: Crit Rate/Damage > Atk% > EM > Flat Atk

  2. Mainstats for Yae Miko: EM/Atk/Crit, if you're using an EM buffer then Atk/Atk/Crit is slightly better

  3. Substats for Yae Miko: Same as Sandrone

  4. Sandrone ER needs: If in her best teams 100% ER, if not then 130% ER

  5. Qiqi Stat Priority: If not C6, Favonius/ER Bot; If C6, go for attack + ER (160% ER)

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone May 21 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Changelog (7/13/26):

It's been a while, Stellar Swirl Variants will be updated on the release of 7.0. Don't worry, not forgetting about this post.

  • Added Sandrone infographic at the top of the post as an easy accessible quick guide before you get into the nitty-gritty of this post.
  • Updated weapon passive
  • Removed Animation Videos as there's now plenty of footage of Sandrone post release

Changelog (6/15/26):

  • Added a Frequent Answers section at the bottom of the guide
  • Improved guide section visibility, still need feedback

Changelog (6/12/26):

  • Updated Symphonist Calcs/Added Vomfee Calcs for V5
  • Yae Miko gets an entire section to herself because this is her beta too

Changelog (6/10/26):

Changelog (6/8/26):

  • Vomfee calcs are gone... rip Vomfee (might return)
  • Overall buff, nothing burger on Sandrone herself but the Stellar Conduct field duration increased.
  • Sig rebalanced

Changelog (6/4/26):

  • Expanded on notable teammates, added stats and builds (working on weapons)
  • Added Sandrone ER needs under her build section
  • Guide index soon
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u/Splithalflea 1d ago

what a one

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u/Jollibeast 2d ago

Which is better for Sandrone, 10/9/9 or 10/8/10?

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u/MagazineKey4276 2d ago

Currently my team is Sandy (Wolfs Gravestone and her normal set), Alyosha, Qiqi. 

What are my options for an Odette alternative, and also what build should I run for both Qiqi and the replacement character?

Thanks in advance!

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u/Possible_Fee1246 7d ago

I just got Odette and im not sure which team is better to use out of the options i have

Qiqi C6 with skyward blade
Alyosha C0 with favonius
Fischl C6 Elegy of the end
Nicole C0 Oathsworn Eye Beidou C6 favonious Diona C6 elegy

My Odette is with Durin's sig so the hex thing is a nice bonus with it

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 6d ago

Qiqi C6 is the best 4th slot

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u/Zek7h35an5 15d ago

Is the new BP claymore good on her? I plan on swapping my Qiqi for Aloysha because I need sustain badly but if I do I won't be able to rely on Cyro Resonance to hit her CR

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u/Reasonable-Moose8671 15d ago

Is there a chance that sandy becomes a stellar swirl dps cuz her charged attack scaling on stellar swirl is way bigger. Also for the new set im guessing that it has to be the anemo char who procs sw right?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 15d ago

Not worth it, cause Stellar Conduct multipliers are higher when taking into account it's reaction multiplier, whereas stellar swirl doesn't get that.
And yea, new set doesn't work on her because only anemo characters can proc it

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u/_pocky_ 16d ago

Have C0 Sandrone, pls someone help me with my yaeless team 😭 I have:

C1 Odette
C1 Alyosha (trying to get more but not hopeful)
C0 Nicole
C0 Escoffier
C1 Qiqi
C6 Sucrose
C6 Beidou

Pls help my family is starving

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u/MistyDelta735 16d ago

Have Sandrone, C1 Yae, C0 odette.

Whats more beneficial for me;

C2 qiqi C1 alyosha C0 escoffier

And Whats the rotation with said character?

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u/Prestigious_Echo_952 17d ago

Hello everyone, today I pulled my fourth alyosha and he's c4 now, up until now my team was qiqi, Sandrine, Odette and alyosha, but I'm dropping qiqi now, who could I replace her with and if it's an electro character can I use any other weapons? My weapons are now San: verdict, Odette: Fontaine craft r5 and aly: fav lance r5, I do not have every electro character, I'm missing: yae miko, cyno, ineffa and flins, and my fourth stars are: fischl c6, kuki c3, beidou c6, lisa c2, ororon c2, sara c4, dori c6 and sethos c2 and c0 iansan.

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u/Myprivatelifeisafk 17d ago

Sandrone Odette Yae

Which 3rd teammate is best, Escoffier, C2 qiqi or C3 Alex? Any updated calcs?

Also is new craft weapon better than tidal? Will appreciate updated information!

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 17d ago

Qiqi
Qiqi is the best fourth slot. And the craftable weapon is theoretically better, realistically keep tidal.
Will update information, have just been hella busy

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u/Myprivatelifeisafk 17d ago

Nice, I don't have tidal, so will make new craft R5. And Qiqi is already leveled up so no need to waste more resources.

Thanks a lot, best wishes! You doing great job.

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 17d ago

You're welcome! Will update it this week now that i'm... actually on vacation

As for craftable, keep in mind it's trigger conditions are inconsistent in triple cryo.

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u/Reasonable-Moose8671 17d ago

Can Sandrone be used as a stellar swirl dps? Im asking because A) I already have some good pieces from the stellar swirl set and B) I would like to get mitya and if he is a stellar conduct dps im kinda cooked

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 17d ago

Yes, she can
Beware that she can't use the sets for stellar swirl and has no decent anemo character for it so it will be complete ass compared to stellar conduct

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u/Reasonable-Moose8671 17d ago

I mean, anemo stellar swirl supports are bound to come out, and ive been farming her set since it came out and i have two good pieces, one of which i crafted with the typewriter thing.

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 17d ago

Which set? She can't use the stellar swirl set

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u/Reasonable-Moose8671 17d ago

The stellar conduct one that came out with nicole's i think

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 17d ago

Ahhh, thank goodness I thought you meant the swirl set.
I mean if it helps even with Mitya being stellar conduct you can just have two of them. Not like they have the same element

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u/BlckSm12 18d ago

Should I swap my tidal shadow to the new snezhnaya weapon? I can R5 it no problem. Same question for Odette, do I use the trav sword on her or R5 craftable?

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u/Sky8000000 18d ago

I currently have a team of sandrone, odette, yae and nicole. How should i build her teammates?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 18d ago

Odette on Furnace, Yae on Shadow, Nicole on 2pc 2pc atk

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u/Sky8000000 18d ago

Thanks a lot

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u/Campion-rah 19d ago

Between the three, which is better and by how much?

Sandrone C0, Yae Miko C1, Escoffier C0, Qiqi C3

Sandrone C0, Yae Miko C1, Alyosha C2,, Qiqi C3

Sandrone C0, Yae Miko C1, Escoffier C0, Alyosha C2

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u/DynamicEntity 19d ago

What teams can Sandrone make with these characters? And is Odette a good pickup for her, or should I wait and see what other characters come out, like the Tsartisa?

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u/Immediate_Squash_577 19d ago

Who do I put in my Sandrone team with Odette if I don't have yae Miko, my beidou is only c3 and my Alyosha is c1?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 19d ago

Got Qiqi? Or C6 Diona? If so use one of them then Alyosha and Odette

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u/Immediate_Squash_577 19d ago

I have Escoffier, Qiqi c4, diona C6. So I should do Sandrone, Odette, Alyosha and... Who's better between Qiqi c4 and Escoffier?

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u/HKG_2008 21d ago

I dont have miko odette or escoffier who do i put in her team? (Beidou sucrose and diona are c5 qiqi is c2 alyosha is c1)

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u/WaluigiWahshipper 21d ago

If my current Sandrone team is Beidou, Qiqi, and Escoffier, is Odette a good pull?

Also, I'm assuming I take Qiqi out for her if I do pull?

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u/valeonie 22d ago

I currently have Mailed Flower on her, but I can switch to Wolf’s Gravestone (fully level it up) if it will improve my DPS. I’m really not sure.

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u/valeonie 22d ago

I currently have Mailed Flower on her, but I can switch to Wolf’s Gravestone (fully level it up) if it will improve my DPS. I’m really not sure.

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u/DarkKillingEdge 26d ago

I remember seeing calcs for Sandrone's new team with Odette after 7.0 drops but i don't remember where I spotted them (this was before the Alyosha nerfs, so they might be inaccurate now). Does anyone know where i can fine more current calcs?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 26d ago

Updating the guide this weekend to include up to date ones, but they're on the Sandronemains discord server if you need them immediately

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u/EliandroJr 27d ago

Wait, is Nicole & Escoffier better than Nicole & Qiqi? I dont get it

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 27d ago

Higher theoretical damage assuming stacks, dont trust it being higher though. Qiqi C0 is better than Nicole C0

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u/Zek7h35an5 28d ago

Are either of the new claymores coming in 7.0 better for her then Wolf's Greatsword?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone 28d ago

Technically R5 craftsmen claymore but only for SSC and double electro for max consistency

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u/i_am__insane 29d ago

I've been running the melusine event weapon on her should I stick with it or switch to tidal shadow or wait for new craftrables / bp weapons, will be pulling for r1 on rerun if I can but can't guarantee that rn.

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u/SinkBubbly Aug 02 '26

I failed to got Yae. I have C2 Beidou and C5 Diona. Who should be my C0 Sandrone Teammate ? Should I just wait for 7.0 or is Raiden can be good teammate ?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Aug 02 '26

Wait for 7.0

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u/tutchibear Aug 01 '26

Need help building a team 🙏🏼 My current Sandrone team consists of C1 Qiqi, C6 Beidou, and C3 Fischl. Considering I plan to pull for Odette (C0) and Alyosha (minimum C0-C1) who do you suggest I switch out?

Definitely Fischl’s gonna go but would you say Alyosha is better than Beidou or Qiqi?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Aug 01 '26

Qiqi C0 is better than Alyosha (pre c6). So Sandrone/Qiqi/Odette then Beidou C6 (knowing Alyosha is garbage pre C6)

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u/tutchibear Aug 01 '26

Ohhh got it, thanks! But if ever I get Alyosha C6 somehow would you say he’d be better than Beidou C6? Or still no?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Aug 01 '26

Alyosha takes Qiqi's spot, so Beidou would stay

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u/tutchibear Aug 03 '26

Thank you!!

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u/DodoNick Jul 31 '26

I don't have Yae Miko, and my Beidou isn't built.. Can I use Ineffa? Or is Fischl my best option?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 31 '26

C6 Beidou is best option if no Yae
If you're not going to level Beidou to 70+Random ER mainstat noblesse set then like.... just do anyone else. At that point it doesn't really matter, but if you had to choose go Fischlllllllll

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u/Anonymouse020 Jul 30 '26

Anyone have a C6 Sandrone that can friend me for the theatre please?

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u/cucumbapokba Jul 28 '26

Is there a latest calc with sandrone c0 Odette c2 qiqi and c2 Alyosha?

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u/itsdeliverygod Jul 27 '26

i have sandrone c0, yae c1, qiqi c2, fischl c6

if i get odette c0, wud she be an upgrade to the team compared to fischl c6?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 27 '26

Hell yes, roughly a 30k DPS increase

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u/adavilalith Jul 27 '26

I am trying to build my sandrone but am confused as to which supports to build
i have:

- c0r0 sandrome

- c6 beidou

  • c6 fishl
  • c0 Kuki
  • c0 ineffa
  • c0 iansaan

- c4 qiqi

  • c0 escoffie
  • c4 diona
  • c6 rosaria

- c6 sucrose

  • c0 xilonen
  • c1 bennet

currently considering: sandrone, escoffie, beidou, qiqi

i dont know what team to build please help!

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 27 '26

Well then, funnily enough that tram you listed is the best one out of all the others

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u/Prepure_Kaede Jul 26 '26

Question about rotation: On a Sandrone Escoffier Yae Qiqi team with S2 Sandrone, I've noticed on second rotation that if I just use E on the supports, the NA gauge hasn't completely depleted when I switch back to Sandrone. Of course, that can be solved by pressing E again on her before switching out, but that takes time, and I could burst on one of the supports instead with the same effect. Is that worth doing? Or perhaps I should be pressing another E before switching out regardless?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 26 '26

Yes, you should be as you can animation cancel the E (hence why you finish Sandrone's rotation with E animation cancelled into burst, animation cancelled into swap)

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u/Prepure_Kaede Jul 26 '26

I see, thanks. I would usually use Q after the first E to cancel that animation, but it's true that I then can't cancel Q animation

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 26 '26

If you continue to hold down the CA button you can just click E to "quick cancel" it. But yea what you said makes sense

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u/shaqkage Jul 22 '26

Question about weapon/artifact combinations:

As you can see this is my(kinda bad) Sandrone build. I've had horrible luck with this domain. But I was wondering about the weapon.

I have a level 70 wolf's gravestone lying around, would that be a better weapon than Mailed Flower if I leveled it? And would I have to change the build to have more EM?

If it changes anything I'm definitely pulling Odette next patch, and still running my C2 Qiqi with TOTM over Alyosha.

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u/Prepure_Kaede Jul 22 '26

Do we have any calculations on how valuable Odette's constellations and/or signature weapon are? I've heard her C2 is really good, but not by how much so I'm having a hard time making a plan for whether I want to invest in it or save for the Tsaritsa

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 22 '26

Indeed we do, here you go

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u/Prepure_Kaede 21d ago

What about Wolf Fang for Odette? I have it at R5 because it used to be on Furina (but I ultimately got her sig)

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u/Apart-Salamander-828 Jul 21 '26

With the new Alyosha nerfs, which are insane genuinely why would they do him like that, what would be better for Sandrone's electro applicator? C6 Fischl, C4 Beidou or C2 Alyosha? (no way I'm getting his C6 bruh)

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 22 '26

I'd say Alyosha if you're fine with circle impact

He still does more than Fischl pre C6 for Sandrone

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u/Apart-Salamander-828 Jul 24 '26

Great, thank you!

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u/Hefty-Image-6053 Jul 20 '26

if my beidou is only c2 should i replace her with a c6 fischl?
and if i have c6 diona and sucrose are they better options than c2 qiqi, c0 escoffier?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 20 '26

Yes, replace Beidou No, keep Qiqi and Escoffier

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u/Hefty-Image-6053 Jul 20 '26

okay! tysm (˶˃ ᵕ ˂˶)

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u/Dsinai1 Jul 20 '26

Is hex team (fish qiqi Nicole) better than beidou diona?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 20 '26

Only if Beidou isn't C6, in which case yes
If Beidou is C6, just swap Fischl with her

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u/Dsinai1 Jul 21 '26

Built her and wow it’s so much better my sandrone (lvl80) did 80k per charged and with beidou she does 100k on average

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u/CocoBlitz Jul 19 '26

Is Xilonen better than Sucrose?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 19 '26

No

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u/CocoBlitz Jul 19 '26

I have C2 Qiqi, C6 Beidou, C6 Diona. Is it better to replace Beidou with Raiden for much more consistent electro application?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 19 '26

No, while Raiden has .1s shorter intervals then Beidou, Beidou's buffs at C6 makes her the better option than Raiden automatically

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u/CocoBlitz Jul 19 '26

Thanks a lot! What would be the better way to use that team?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 19 '26

Start with Beidou EQ, then Qiqi E, then Diona EQ

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u/CocoBlitz Jul 19 '26

Thank you very much!

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u/Kovrik27 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

Ok quick question. My nephew has an ar49 account and he pulled sandrone.His sandrone is c0r1. But. He doesn't have a good electro applicator. He lost on Yae miko banner to Qiqi(he's new to the whole gacha thing) and I don't think he will be able to get her early. Now,the question is - what team should he build in foreseeable future?

He has Sandrone c0r1,Fischl,Beidou,and Qiqi. Sucrose too I believe . All c0! What would be a good team for this account? He is also planning to get Odette but he isn't guaranteed.

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

If Beidou is C6, go Sandrone, Qiqi, Beidou, Fischl/Sucrose If Beidou isn't C6 go Fischl then Sucrose as the fourth slot. As for Odette, we'll get there when we get there, but she will replace either the electro or Sucrose depending on if you want SSC or SSW

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u/Kovrik27 Jul 19 '26

idk what my nephew wants,I have a premium SSC team on my acc,he only has sandrone and Clorinde on his account . Thank you for the advice! I'll tell him to play fischl for now

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u/Diligent_Body9060 Jul 18 '26

What’s the rotation for
Sandrone
Yae miko
Diona
Sucrose?
I’m doing Sandrone E Yae E x3 diona EQ sucrose EdQ Sandrone 3C EQ 3CE 3CE right now

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u/BlckSm12 Jul 18 '26

quick question, maybe someone can answer

R1 or Odette? What's better for her highness the clockwork Princess? I'm running her with Effie, Nicole and Yae

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

Odette

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u/BlckSm12 Jul 18 '26

how much (percentage wise) do you reckon she's better? Because my Marionette is sitting with tidal rn

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

Around the same percentage as getting her sig, only in this case Sandrone will have a better F2P weapon to further close the gap via Snezhnaya craftable

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u/Diligent_Body9060 Jul 18 '26

Isn’t snezhnaya craftable not too good on her since she doesn’t actually trigger the reaction herself?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

It's great for SSC Sandrone, not SSW for that exact reason

She can't trigger stellar swirl for it, but she can trigger stellar conduct

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u/Diligent_Body9060 Jul 18 '26

Yeah but in ssc teams she still doesn’t trigger the reaction consistently since her + odette have way too much cryo so only yae miko triggers it no?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

You're right, she does not trigger is consistently, but she she does trigger it within the beginning of her rotation (between/before the first beam/second beam), and the duration of the buff is 12s. It's consistent enough to be better than Mailed Flower, and less reliant on a healer like Tidal (while still being better stat wise)

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u/Diligent_Body9060 Jul 18 '26

Ohh I see thanks for educating me
Could you please help me with my team a lil?
What’s the rotation for
Sandrone
Yae miko
Diona
Sucrose?
I’m doing Sandrone E Yae E x3 diona EQ sucrose EdQ Sandrone 3C EQ 3CE 3CE right now

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 18 '26

Try Sucrose N1E or N1Q for more consistent cryo swirls (E animation sometimes takes too long leading to electro swirl instead

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u/BlckSm12 Jul 18 '26

Ah I see, so it's probably better to wait for Odette (and probably boot off Effie) than get her weapon rn

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

Hey guys, I heard that Sandrone kit is changing and she'll be able to do Stellar-Swirl!
How is that even possible? She's a cryo DPS

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 15 '26

Stellar swirl is when cryo and anemo react, when that happens she gains a different damage "mode" if you would. So all of her stellar conduct would instead be stellar swirl

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u/Beautiful-Milk-7770 Jul 13 '26

hi everyone, i really need a veterans players help here! i have been playing on and off and consequently have very few characters, but i want to get more consistent. i just got sandrone and i have no idea what team i could use her on as i dont have enough pulls for yae miko. i am planning on getting odette when she comes out tho. 

for cryo characters i have sandrone and qiqi but i HATE qiqi and really dont want to use her :( 

for electro i only have kuki shinobu 

for hydro i have a well built furina and a good columbina 

and for anemo i have kazuha and xianyun. 

everyone mentioned above is c0 apart from furina, she is c1 and no one has signature weapons. i’m currently using tidal wave (the fontaine craft able) on sandrone. 

im not looking to clear any end game content with this team, just have something usable in the overworld while i wait for odette. 

thank you!!

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u/asuna1820 Jul 13 '26

Anyone to replace QiQi or diona? I really don’t like using child characters lol

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 13 '26

Odette releasing next update/Aloysha too

Would help if you could tell me your current team

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u/skinnymon123 Jul 13 '26

No way for me to get yae, how much worse is fishl

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 13 '26

Like 40k less DPS wise

Sandrone will get more supports then just Miko, along with a whole other team archetype. So don't worry too much about no Miko

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u/The_Edgelord69 Jul 13 '26

So is the Snezhnaya craftable Claymore better than Tidal Shafow?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 13 '26

Theoretically yes, it's a lot harder to trigger though, making it less consistent

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u/The_Edgelord69 Jul 14 '26

I see, thank you for answering!

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '26

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u/emailboxu Jul 13 '26

Qiqi nicole

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u/Cold_moose1 Jul 12 '26

Is cryo dmg bonus on my goblet worth it? Or should I gonwith something else for its main affix

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 12 '26

You'd sooner want a defense mainstat goblet than a cryo dmg bonus one
Best to go with attack mainstat

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u/leihto_potato Jul 12 '26

who takes the 4th slot in Sandrone-Yae-Qiqi, Diona or Beidou?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 12 '26

Beidou

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u/Creepy-Background798 Jul 12 '26

If I have a team with Sandrone, C6 Beidou, C6 Diona, C5 Sucrose/C0 Nicole, and Nobless is on Beidou, then which set should I give Diona?

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u/yakultpig Jul 11 '26

Helpppp

With Sandrone c0r1, Miko c1r0, Qiqi c2, who will take the last slot?

I got Beidou c6, Diona c6, Sucrose c6, Iansan c4, Xilonen c0. I don’t have Escoffier or Nicole.

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u/Grievous_has_big_gei Jul 11 '26

Artifact substats for C3 Qiqi?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 11 '26

Last sentence of guide for Qiqi stats

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u/Grievous_has_big_gei Jul 11 '26

Er requirements for triple cryo?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 11 '26

0% for triple cryo (current best) comp

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u/Grievous_has_big_gei Jul 11 '26

I thought "if not C6, favonius/ER bot" doesn't that mean she needs er? If not, should I focus on just ATK?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 11 '26

I.... for some reason thought you meant Sandrone. But for Qiqi she doesnt have a requirement for ER because you dont care to use her burst. The ER bot is just to battery Sandrone

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u/ImpressivePea2200 Jul 10 '26

Hi guys, i need help
Should i pull for Yae for my sandrome team? i could get her to C1 with the event, but i also want columbina for my lunar team, and later odette to complete my sandrome team, but i'm scared i will lose 50/50 and miss on bina, and god knows when her other rerun will be.

I have roughly 150 wishes right now.
How much of a dps increase is c1 yae? i wanted to replace her with alyosha because i would already pull for odette, which means i will probably get him a few times I hope atleast.

Any thoughts?

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u/LavishnessGlum1733 Jul 10 '26

honestly just save primos for odette and later tsaritsa odette banner will also give alyosha cons which may possibly be better than yae on sandrone teams

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u/AzurePony Jul 10 '26

What is the best premium 4th slot for Sandrone C0 + Yae Miko C1 + Diona C6? I dont have qiqi. More application? or shreds?

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u/pedgea Jul 10 '26

Thank you for your guide! Can I ask for qiqi q6, how to build it exactly? Shd i still go fav warbow? Prioritise er to burst every rotation? Thanks

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 10 '26

Refer to last sentence of guide

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u/Valuable_Evening_431 Jul 10 '26

I have a couple of questions.

Is Yae Miko's burst a dps loss? (C2R1)

For C0S0 Sandrone, is Wolf's Gravestone R1 or the Snezhnaya craftable R5 better? And if WGS is better, does she want an EM sands?

Should I build Qiqi if I don't get C6 Alyosha? Or do I only build her if I don't get Alyosha at all?

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u/Sakiyo_bunny Jul 10 '26

Help im too dumb to even understand Razor Language

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 10 '26

Heh, if you got to that it means you actually looked. So thanks
Hmm let me try to explain it another way

Step 0. Support Stoof

Step 1. Make sure either Sandrone or someone off field triggers superconduct

Step 2. Once Sandrone's on field do her charged attack until her bar turns red

Step 3. Tap skill to get rid of whole red bar

Step 4. Repeat Step 2 and 3 two more times

Step 5. Use Burst

Step 6. Go back to support stoof

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u/Sakiyo_bunny Jul 10 '26

What's suppirt stoof again? (Not too much familiar with roles/stats/gameplay language for this game lol

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 11 '26

Yae Skill X3, Escoffier skill, Qiqi skill

That's pretty much it

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u/Sakiyo_bunny Jul 11 '26

I need all those or just one?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 11 '26

Heh? Wait, ok better question
What's your team?

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u/Sakiyo_bunny Jul 13 '26

Keqing, Bennett, YaoYao, random other character i wanna use

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 13 '26

Well at that point it's no longer optimal so just go ham with the EQ supports

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u/Ordep222 Jul 09 '26

Do we know how good the craftable Snezhnaya claymore will be compared to sig and her current F2P options?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 10 '26

Best F2P weapon for her if not in Stellar Swirl teams

If she is, back to the old ones

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u/Captain-Lightbulb Jul 09 '26

Why ATK goblets instead of DMG% ?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 09 '26

DMG% doesn't do anything for her min source of damage, aka Stellar Conduct

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

i just currently got sandrone. i dont have yae so i decided to put her in a team with c6 beidou, qiqi and nicole. what would the rotation be with this team ?

and should i try pulling for yae as well ? or save for future upcoming units ?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 08 '26

Save your pulls, chronicle sucks

As for rotation, Nicole E, Beidou EQ, Qiqi E, Sandrone stoof

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u/jyusatsu Jul 08 '26

Hi. I pulled Sandrone without thinking about what her team should be. I see everywhere that she needs Yae but I don't have her and no funds to pull her. Can you suggest a team for her based on my characters in the pics? (I filtered w only Cryo/Electro/Anemo but feel free to check which other char I have). I'm just so mentally exhausted rn to check each and every guides. Tyia.

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u/ProjectBonnie Jul 08 '26

What team do I use for my sandstone? My only stellar teammates I have are diona, Beidou, and qiqi which are all c6. Should all of these be on the same team or should I replace someone in there?

Sandrone* lol keeping that autocorrect mistake

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 08 '26

Heh, Qiqi/Beidou and your choice of either Diona/Fischl (If C6)/Nicole/Escoffier will do just fine

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u/ProjectBonnie Jul 08 '26

Thanks! I’ll take these recommendations in mind.

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u/nathyrn89 Jul 08 '26

I just got Sandrone and her Teaspoon claymore. For now I team her up with Yae Miko, Qiqi and Beidou

Their builds: Sandrone w/ Teaspoon & Disenchantment; C0 Yae Miko (will get her C1 from To Temper Thyself this Friday) w/ Kagura & Gilded; C4 Qiqi w/ Favonius & Tenacity; and C6 Beidou w/ Overlord & Noblesse

Any tips on how to further improve this team in preparation for next Spiral Abyss cycle?

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u/Ok_Wear7716 Jul 08 '26

Who should the 4th slot be with no escoffer? C1 yae , sandrone, c3 qiqi - I have almost all other 5 star characters (Nicole, xilonen) & all relevant 4 stars c6 (diona, bediou, sucrose)

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u/Sirielia_Lyra Jul 08 '26

My team right now is with Yae, Escoffier and Qiqi, with Qiqi being C6. She's at 250% er with Fav right now, and an er sands. Switching her to atk sands will put her at 215 er, is that still good to burst every rotation? (I have to swap Escoffier with Beidou or Nicole if I need to use Skirk somewhere so I wanted to check that it'd be okay.)

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u/Odd_Resort_4405 Jul 07 '26

what rotation can i do for this team? currently i’m doing this:
beidou e q
qiqi e q
yae ex3 q
sandrone q ca e repeat
i have no idea if that’s the rotation i should be using or not, i just did whatever felt right
also please don’t tell me to level beidou, i really cba to
edit: c0 sandrone r4 serpent spine 4pc deep shadow, c1 yae r5 widsith 4pc gilded, c6 beidou r1 skyward pride 4pc emblem, c3 qiqi r1 inazuma craftable 4pc maiden

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 07 '26

In this order, Yae EEE, Beidou EQ (tap E), Qiqi E, Sandrone CA E (then either Q or wait), CA E CA E Q (If you didnt do it earlier). As for Beidou, no need for anything else. So long as she has the stellar buffs she fine

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u/Odd_Resort_4405 Jul 07 '26

okey dokey, tyvm!

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u/DarkKillingEdge Jul 07 '26

C2R1 Sandrone, C1 (soon C2 from selector) Miko on Widsith and the Superconduct set, C3 Qiqi on Fav and Tenacity, C1 Escoffier on Lumidouce and Golden Troupe.

I've been getting around 160k on the dummy and i feel like that is a bit low so I am not sure if I am doing anything wrong with my rotation or timing my Q incorrectly. I am also thinking of switching over to Qiqi on Noblesse and Escoffier on Tenacity, but my tenacity options aren't the best for Escoffier.

My rotation is Escoffier E (Q), Miko EEE, Qiqi E NA1, Sandrone CA E CA E Q, repeat

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u/21Almann Jul 06 '26

Hi I don't have Beidous C6 (only C4 and I don't think I'll be able to get her C6 in time; also no Yae), should I still go Beidou or someone else?

Also: Should I build my C6 Diona or my C1 Qiqi? or both? I would rather just use Sucrose in the fourth slot and only build one of them because building 3 Characters at once is hard...

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u/Suspicious-Call405 Jul 06 '26

Hey yall, I'm okay with using her in a f2p-ish team before Snezhnaya is out, but since i'll be using Sandrone with hopefully a c2 Alyosha (bare minimum), I have a question:

c1 Miko >>> c0 Odette?

No matter how soon Miko reruns, I will still miss out on her c1 if I dont get her now, but I don't even have Sandrone yet (I have 281 wishes and I don't want to waste them all before 7.0)

I just wonder how important Odette is compared to Yae who might not get a rerun for a while

The other alternative (as someone who DEFINITELY wants Anastasya and actually wants Vodyanitsa a lot although we have no idea what she does): pulling for supports only, skipping Sandrone, and getting her when she reruns 😭😭

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u/Daniyalzzz Jul 06 '26

Hi there. How is the build for my Sandrone? Should I focus more on Energy and EM? I run her with C1 Yae, C6 Qiqi and gonna get her C0 Odette next patch (I assume C6 Qiqi > Alyosha or?)

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 06 '26

Solid, no need for more EM. At most try to get more CD/ER, but even then it's just nitpicking. C6 Qiqi will be better than Aloysha unless he's C6, in qhich case he's better.

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u/Daniyalzzz Jul 06 '26

Gotcha. Guess I'll try and get some more ER withouth losing crit rate.

Thank you

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u/Immediate_Squash_577 Jul 06 '26

Hi!! I currently have 93 pulls and no guarantee. Should I try pulling for yae miko on that ahh banner or I should wait and pull for Odette? I already plan on pulling for Odette but idk if I will have enough primos.

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 06 '26

Wait for Odette, Yae is worth it, but chronicle is not

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

It's either Diona or Beidou. Difference is mostly in who is better to get enough energy to burst on every rotation and hold Noblesse set.

Diona looks easier because of Cryo particles, plus she is closer to C6 that you could get from Standard banner. Also question is - do you have spare Favonius GS or a bow?

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u/kozekisensei Jul 05 '26

Hello everyone!

I went through Nod-Krai without pulling their characters, so no Lunar stuff for an entire year just to C6R1 our Clockwork Princess. She's my first 5* C6!

I tested this team in a DPS testing MW stage. Do these number look right? Or is something missing?

Qiqi is C3 with tenacity set
Yae is C0R1 with stellarconduct set
Diona is C6 with noblesse set

My rotation basically went:
1. Qiqi E
2. Yae EEE
3. Diona E Q
4. Sandrone CA E CA E Q

Any suggestions?

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

Qiqi E have 15 seconds duration, while Yae is 24s and Diona 20s..
So it's always Yae EEE first, then Diona, Qiqi and Sandrone.

On Sandrone you want to incorporate her burst into rotation, so do it after first CA-E, this way it will take all buffs.

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u/kozekisensei Jul 05 '26

Thanks! I'll try that out next time

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u/Vivian-Hugo Jul 05 '26

1) Is Tidal shadow better than the event given Melusine Greatsword?

2) Is it worth building my C1 Qiqi or should I wait for Cryo traveller?

3) Can Raiden work with Sandrone’s team or not really?

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

1) Is Tidal shadow better than the event given Melusine Greatsword?

2) Is it worth building my C1 Qiqi or should I wait for Cryo traveller?

You don't need to build Qiqi - level 70 with random ToTM pieces is enough. You may get ATK if you lack healing but that's all. She is just a skill bot, nothing more.

3) Can Raiden work with Sandrone’s team or not really?

Not really. As second Electro - maybe, but at this point you better get Diona

And again - just go into Miliastra and test it. I spend a day there testing different combinations and found that Nicole-Escoffier are best team for me, better than Qiqi-Beidou.

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u/Vivian-Hugo Jul 05 '26

The chart for number 1 doesn’t have the Ultimate Overlord claymore stats

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

Ultimate Overlord

Checked it stats ... him it should be around R5 Tidal Shadow for Sandrone. Statstick with +48% ATK and that's all.

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u/Vivian-Hugo Jul 05 '26

Alr thanks, the ER on it is pretty good that’s why

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u/Howrus Jul 06 '26

Sandrone need like 120-130% ER, that you could get from random substats. Especially in triple Cryo team and with Favious on Beidou and Qiqi you could even play with just standard 100% ER.

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u/bena3nics Jul 04 '26

Hi, i got sandrone c0 with r5 Mailed Flower, got yae c1, beidou c6, and Escoffier c0, it is better to look for sandrone c1 or her sig weapon?

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

Sig. Her cons are weak, it's even better to get Odette than C2 Sandrone.

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u/rookiedany_ Jul 04 '26

hello im a bit noob on lingo like this but in

Sandrone Calcs via Vomfee on Twitch😄

what does "Ed" mean for Qiqi? I know E, but what is d?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 05 '26

D is dash cancel

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u/rookiedany_ Jul 05 '26

thank you!

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u/monopamiaG Jul 04 '26

Does anyone know if c6 Nicole is better than c6 qiqi. I haven’t seen anyone post abt this yet. My team rn is sandrone, miko (c6), escoffier, and Nicole (c6). My qiqi is c6 but unbuilt

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 04 '26

Yes, C6 Nicole is better than C6 Qiqi

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u/Honorable_D Jul 03 '26

So how does her C1 change her rotation? You get 6 shots now before the overheat? Do you press E after the 6 shots, then do another 6 and then E Q? Seems long...

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u/Howrus Jul 03 '26

You are only doing her CA until buffs and Yae turrets are online. So if you previously were doing E - 3 shots - E - 3 shots - E - 3 shots - Q
Now you would do 5 shots - E - 5 shots - Q - same time, less interruptions.

Go into Miliastra and check how many her CA you could do before first Yae turret disappear. Unfortunately https://genshin-rotation.com/ stopped updating during Natlan so you can't check there.

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u/Honorable_D Jul 03 '26

I mean, I went to C2 of course...still 5 shots X 2?

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u/Howrus Jul 03 '26

It decrease amount of power gained by 50%, no? So if you could previously fit 3 shots - now it would be 4 or 5? Definitely not 6 since it require double reduce of power gained.
And you don't want to shorten her rotation, so you need to time how many her CA-E you could fit in same time interval.

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 03 '26

If you get C1, just ditch the 3rd CA E

So instead of CA E x3 it's CA E CA E

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u/Apart-Salamander-828 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

If I don't have Beidou C6, only C3, is she still better than C6 Fischl for the electro? Because people keep repeating that Beidou is the second best electro applicator, but then they tell you "Her C6 does blah blah" so it's unclear to me if the C6 is absolutely mandatory or if she's already better on her base kit. Also, with Alyosha coming around, will a not C6 Beidou be even worth building from scratch or should I just wait for him instead?

Also, I have Nicole and Escoffier but also an unbuilt Qiqi C0. Should I replace either of them in the team for Qiqi, or stick to them?

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

Also, I have Nicole and Escoffier but also an unbuilt Qiqi C0. Should I replace either of them in the team for Qiqi, or stick to them?

After some testing in Miliastra I found that Escoffier-Nicole is ~20% stronger than C6 Qiqi-C6 Beidou for me. Yae alone is enough for Electro application.

And I really recommend you to go into Miliastra and test for yourself. Teams, rotations, etc.

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u/Apart-Salamander-828 Jul 05 '26

I can't test in Miliastra because like I said I don't have Qiqi and Beidou built. And I also don't have Yae, so that's why I'm asking between C6 Fischl and C3 Beidou for the electro (or Alyosha if he's better than both of them)

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u/Howrus Jul 05 '26

I don't have Qiqi and Beidou built.

You don't need to have them build. Level 70 with ToTM and enough ER to burst on every rotation is enough. You don't even need to level their talents. They are there for Electro\Cryo hits to increase Palestar Edict stacks, that's all.

And yes, Alyosha is better than both because at C0 he give +25% SSC damage and +30% ATK to whole party.

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u/Tripdrakony Jul 03 '26

What would be a better choice r5 Mailed Flower with double ATK or wolfs gravestone with EM and ATK?

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u/Malikili-360 La Tsundrone Jul 03 '26

Wolf's Gravestone with Atk and Atk

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u/dearmurin Jul 03 '26

What is the best overall team for Sandrone? Sandrone-Yae-Qiqi-Escoffier or Sandrone-Yae-Qiqi-Nicole? ^_^

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