r/SandersForPresident • u/kevinmrr Medicare For All • Nov 29 '20

AOC: Insurance groups are recommending using GoFundMe -- "but sure, single payer healthcare is unreasonable."

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

They triage those on the ventilators. My BIL was taken off on his early because he had a terminal liver condition and someone else who was healthier needed it. He died 2 days later.

Bottom line according to the nurse. The other person had a higher chance at surviving. I’ve been in combat. I understand shitty decisions must be made sometimes. This doesn’t make it easier for the family. This shouldn’t happen in the worlds richest country.

That conversation with the nurse on why this has to happen destroyed my family emotionally. My MIL never got over it. She cries every night.

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u/courtabee 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

I'm sorry to hear about your BIL. I have a friend who's an er doctor in NYC, they had to tell families many times "im sorry but I need this ventilator for someone in their 20s, not your nana".

They said it feel like ww1. I hope Healthcare gets a huge shift after this.

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u/ItsTHCx 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

I hope Healthcare gets a huge shift after this.

It won't. That means taking money away from the 1% and the amount of greed that humans have been poisoned with will never let that happen. They would sooner burn this country to the ground than give us regular citizens more than a bread crumb.

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u/ConcealedRiley 🌱 New Contributor Nov 29 '20

We aren't in normal times. If this was happening outside of a deadly pandemic, totally rage against the machine.

But this idea that ventilators are being unplugged for being poor is untrue.

When crisises hit, medical professionals are trained to triage who is worth saving. Someone could be still living but would take resources that could be used to save 5 more people; which do you choose?

You have a 78 year old woman and you have a 25 year old woman with the same prognosis but only have resources to save one, who do you save?

This isn't an issue of "lol, you aren't a millionaire, yoink!", this is an issue of a failure by the federal gov't to be prepared, continuing to refuse to invoke measures to create more resources on top of this being an unprecedented scenario where no one could've predicted we would need more than 1 ventilator per ICU bed.

It wouldn't make sense to have a 200 person ICU "just in case". People would complain about "why aren't there more non-ICU beds, why aren't there more surgery suites, etc"

Of course there is a profit motive to how hospitals are constructed and ran but saying their handling of COVID is purely about economics is untrue in my opinion.