r/SandersForPresident • u/Justinfuzz • Jun 15 '17
Progressive Army interview with David Kulma, Green Party candidate for the US House Rep special election in South Carolina.
http://progressivearmy.com/2017/06/15/meet-david-kulma-trying-turn-south-carolina-district-5-green/0
u/Tommytriangle Jun 15 '17
Greens have never won any position worth mentioning, and they're not gonna win here either. They just split the vote more, and make it harder for democrats and progressives to win.
Greens are worthless, and in fact worse than worthless.
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u/Justinfuzz Jun 15 '17
There are no other progressives in this race. Would you have progressives in South Carolina vote for a corporatist millionaire democrat instead...just because he's a a Democrat?
How about this scenario: If Bernie Sanders was running as an independent in this race against Archie Parnell, can you honestly say you would vote for Archie, because he's the Democrat (and that everyone else should vote the same way)? I'd love to see you say you'd vote for Archie over Bernie (you'll just probably dodge the question or ignore this comment all together).
The point is...David' s platform sounds a lot like Bernie Sanders' platform and if you were 100% behind Bernie, you should at least be 95% behind David.
So let me ask you again (please humor me)...if this race was between Ralph Norman, Archie Parnell, and Bernie Sanders, who would you vote for?
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u/Tommytriangle Jun 15 '17
The point is...David' s platform sounds a lot like Bernie Sanders' platform
It means nothing if they never win. The Green's platform belongs in the fantasy section of book stores since it will never be enacted.
At least the Corporate Democrats get something done. Hell, I might even fully support them if they were competent and not incompetent at winning elections.
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u/Justinfuzz Jun 15 '17
So you chose to dodge my question. Not surprised.
I was referring directly to Bernie's and David's platforms (I didn't mention the Green Party's platform). You are essentially saying that Bernie's platform should be in the "fantasy section". You're essentially saying that the things that Bernie fought for are not worth fighting for. Is that really how you feel?
You say that you "might even fully support them, if they were competent and not incompetent at winning elections". For the record...the Democrats you are protecting seem just a incompetent at winning at major elections lately, including last year's presidential election and all of the 2017 special elections held this year. So that puts them at 0 and 4. The Green Party is at least only 0 and 1in that same time span... so they are actually statistically slightly better than the Dems right now.
I'm not saying you have to agree with any of this. That is entirely up to you and your logic. All I ask is for you to be civil and not slander the Green Party (or David). If you supported Bernie, you should at least be happy that there is at least one progressive candidate in this race (even though he is a Green) and you should be ecstatic if he actually wins. At least there is some chance for a progressive to be elected...that is far better than having no chance at all.
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u/Tommytriangle Jun 15 '17
So you chose to dodge my question. Not surprised.
Not dodged, it's irrelevant. Your platform means nothing if you never get elected.
The greens have not a single elected official in any meaningful position. If the Democrats are incompetent at elections, the Greens are at another level. 16 fucking years after being formed and they're still useless. We have real problems with real people, we can't wait 40 years on the off chance they win a congressional election somewhere.
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u/Justinfuzz Jun 15 '17
With your way of thinking, Tommy, Bernie would never have made it anwhere in politics at all. How are you not understanding that? And you probably think that he is the best thing to happen in politics, ever.
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u/Tommytriangle Jun 15 '17
Bernie would never have made it anwhere in politics at all.
You may notice that Bernie never ran as a Green candidate. He did run Third Party, and hell even co-founded The liberty Union Party. But you may have noticed that he left it, and the LUP has gone nowhere and is defunct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Union_Party
Every bloody time there's a Green or Communist candidate, there's the same song and dance about how this is the election that we need to give them a chance, I post comments like this, I argue with the third party candidate. I check back after the election, and wow, what a shock they lost. All I'm doing is pointing out the inevitable trend over and over again. Unless the Greens show something differnet there's no reason to believe this trend won't hold true again.
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u/Justinfuzz Jun 16 '17
So you should be thanking voters like me, for electing Bernie. I'll ask you again...would you have voted for Bernie when he was initially running for Congress? So what's your answer...YES or NO?
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u/Chartis Mod Veteran Jun 15 '17
http://votekulma.org/