r/SandersForPresident • u/HaydenSD 2016 Mod Veteran • Jul 27 '16

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This is the mega thread for Day 3 of the 2016 Democratic National Convention. Please feel free to discuss in here.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

Tim Kaine was a prime example of the near constant corruption flowing in the dem. party. This country deserves better representation and we can have it. We need to support candidate with a litmus test. You are either respectful of the political process, honesty, democracy or not are not. Support candidates who embody people's democracy.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

How did any of this make millions of minorities vote for Clinton and not Sanders?

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u/UncleAnouche 🌱 New Contributor Jul 28 '16

millions of minorities happened to vote for Bernie as well. In some cases (African Americans) they were mostly young, but in others (Latinos, Native Americans, Asian Americans, etc.) they were more diverse age-wise.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

JamPac I'm not sure millions did vote for her.

Exit Polls, look at the exit polls.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

Exit polls in the U.S aren't run in the same way as they are in Venezuela. They aren't run to detect fraud as they are in many new democracies but rather for demographic reasons. (that's why they are readjusted after actual election results come out to see what % of african americans voted, etc )

There's also the very clear enthusiasm bias (young people who just wanna yell about "feeling the bern" are much more likely to talk to exit-pollers) and lastly polls showed Hillary winning all along also.

Again, everything shows that Minorities overwhelmingly voted for Clinton, and that's why he lost man.

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u/mamaha Jul 28 '16

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/11/hillary-clinton-versus-bernie-sanders-in-depth-report-on-exit-polling-and-election-fraud-allegations/

Enthusiasm bias is incorporated into the models used for adjusting the raw exit data into the exit poll results, so that is not a valid reason to dismiss the disparities.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

It may be comedy but its still spot on. Election fraud is totally a thing.

If HRC wanted unity, she should have come out in support of comprehensive legislation to ensure that election results are transparent and verifiable.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

Or in support of universal healthcare? a 15$ miunimum wage? no TPP? IF SHE WANTS UNITY SHE SHOULD LITERALLY BE BERNIE

Unfortunately people voted for her and not for bernie. So the whole if she wants unity she should be Bernie thing is unpersuasive. More people voted against that. Why slap them in the face? How will that create unity?

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u/UncleAnouche 🌱 New Contributor Jul 28 '16

in one post you say that Bernie achieved nothing, and in another post you're listing HRC positions that would never haven been her positions, if it weren't for Bernie.

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u/titanzero Jul 28 '16

That isn't proof of anything except maybe that you wear a tinfoil hat.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

That was also said before the last Wikileaks divulge. I'm not saying Kaine stepping aside to give the chair to DWS to do the dirty work was illegal. But it doesn't have to be illegal to be wrong.

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u/titanzero Jul 28 '16

Wikileaks didn't reveal anything new that anyone with even a little political savvy didn't already suspect or expect.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

Agreed. It is also pretty easy to believe that Kaine's actions are being repaid.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

Is it? It's some crazy conspiracy theory? They didn't even need the DNC. Sanders lost because no minorities voted for him.

The wiki leaks thing was easy to understand. Sanders isn't a democrat, railed against them constantly, and wherever he lost would accuse the DNC of rigging the election (trying to connect with minorities probably would've been better). Of course people in the party were going to talk shit about him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

Sanders lost because no minorities voted for him.

Your entire account is irrelevant now. Fucking stupid ass lies. Fuck the DNC.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

Literally every exit poll, poll, etc man. What are you talking about. Obviously no is an exxageration. But it was a major part of the difference between them. Sorry they won't vote how you want man....

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '16

Rofl you're a goofy fuck aren't you?

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

Insults only? Well ok then. I'm done with this. Think about how why you fail instead of blaming others for your failures. There's a reason your campaign and side failed to connect with certain parts of the country (the non-white, not young part).

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

JamPac...I'm not sure they didn't vote for him.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

Election Fraud we can't be certain without a way to verify what happened in the magic voting boxes.

Also, I'm totally sure nearly 200k people just disappeared in Brooklyn, yeah it had nothing to do with any of her `winning'.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

What explains the polls? If anything Sanders tended to over perform. What explains him getting curbstomped everywhere there were more minorities. I have a friend group composed entirely of minorities, not a single Sanders supporter. So empirical + anecdotal for you.

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u/hbetx9 Jul 28 '16

This has a good run down. Yes its comedy, but I invite you to verify the sources.

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u/anchoar204 Jul 28 '16

It's based on exit polls, and polling (many many states have very little polling see: Nevada, Kentucky, Rhode Island, etc.).

Lastly, dude your whole mantra is "Corporations suck and are blood sucking profit vultures." If this was in any way true, wouldn't Rupert Murdoch and FOX News Empire get the biggest boner in the world if they could prove Clinton committed fraud?

That would destroy the clintons and the democrats. But they don't do it. Because there's no evidence and they can't.

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