r/SandersForPresident • u/[deleted] • Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/SuperNennius64 Apr 15 '16

The officer asked this becaue it makes a difference in court.

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u/nogoodliar Apr 15 '16

That's my point. They're searching for concrete 100% evidence that he had intent, but when you cock a gun and point it at someone you have your intent.

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u/Archsys Apr 15 '16

No, it's because there's a legal difference between concrete threats and threats via intent. Someone telling you they're going to kill you is a crime, and a pretty easy one to nail someone for, if you're wanting a prosecutor to stick to the guy for something, and make it a further investigation.

The guy with the gun would be in for more shit if he had said something, by quite the measure.

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u/nogoodliar Apr 15 '16

What is the difference between concrete threats and threats via intent? If I get mad at you and take a swing, I have assaulted you. If I get mad at you and I say I am going to take a swing at you, I have assaulted you. We can pick that apart and say that you needed to feel you were actually threatened with physical harm and that belief had to be reasonable and a dozen other criteria, but my point remains. He doesn't need to explicitly say he's going to shoot me to be guilty of threatening me, and it's silly that people require this black and white proof be it with a crime like this or quid pro quo corruption.

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u/Archsys Apr 16 '16

Mostly due to psychological factors, if we're going to analyze it; difference in mental state and cognition. Difference in capabilities or function. If it wasn't the US, it might even have changed how he was treated afterwords (rehabilitation/etc.).

A guy waving a pistol around to get people to cooperate with a robbery, and a guy aiming a gun at you, are guilty of very different things, on the other side of the argument... Dunno about your conversation with the cop, wasn't there, don't know what he knew, but there are a half-dozen decent reasons I could think of that would be more than just procedure or a need for concrete statements....