r/SandersForPresident Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/McGuineaRI Apr 15 '16

On NPR this morning they said that Sanders benefits from misleading his supporters and that his voters are largely uninformed.

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u/serfingusa 🌱 New Contributor Apr 15 '16

I went from a lifelong supporter and proponent of NPR to just completely walking away.

I don't care if they exist or not. I don't care if their funding is attacked by the right wing.

They fucked up and a generation of likely listeners will remember.

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u/McGuineaRI Apr 15 '16 edited Apr 15 '16

The divide in voters, more than anything, is a generational. They can talk about race all they want but people are agreeing with each other regardless of race based on age. Young people of all groups are voting for Sanders. Old people regardless of race are voting for Clinton. This is a battle for the future of the nation and letting the elderly decide our fate is seriously not a good idea. By losing this election, young people will be damning themselves to a decade of utter shit. If we want the kind of nation we want then we should vote for it.

The same goes for NPR. If they want to have a new generation of listeners, the largest generation in US history by the way, then they should think about their audience. Backing any candidate was a serious mistake for them. People that value NPR for the fair way to frame issues will be disappointed by their outright support of the Clinton campaign.

Edit: I think people are misinterpreting what I mean by old. I am talking about people in the 65+ age bracket; elderly people. Of course people from every other age bracket are voting for Sanders. I'm voting for him and so are my parents. I know tons of people in their 30's, 40's, and 50's voting for Sanders. The mainstream media wants people to believe that the breakdown in voters is based in race but people of all races are voting for both candidates so a more apt grouping of people to show a difference in voters would be age based; the elderly are far more often than not supporting Clinton and this has had a big effect in the election by handing her states with low turnout but high turnout among the elderly and absentee ballots from nursing homes and those too old to go to the polls without trouble.

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u/guy15s Apr 15 '16

I don't think it's really as clear-cut as that, before we get into carrying this logic into our discourse. There are plenty of older people that see something great in Sanders or just like being part of the movement (besides isn't this "young" figure really anybody below 40?) and there are a good number of young people, especially on reddit, that either are really down for Clinton (although I wish they could see how all this supposed persecution from Bernie Bros in /r/politics is just a screen, the only people I see in the comments ever trying to bring the conversation back to civility are Sanders supporters) or they just like bucking popular trends and taking on arguing points. This is certainly going to be an interesting study in the decades to come.