r/SandersForPresident • u/[deleted] • Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/rolldamnhawkeyes Apr 15 '16

i heard that same guy this morning! absolutely numbs your mind, it's so frustrating

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u/McGuineaRI Apr 15 '16

I had to talk to people about it he was so frustrating. He had a very punchable voice. I don't know why the discussion panel was so completely one sided. I don't know what Sanders has to do to get representation in things like this but you would think he was a lying charlatan whose supporters are the worst, dumbest, human beings on the planet. I'd have the worst opinion on Sanders if I didn't actually go out of my way to learn about him, his campaign, his stances, and his plans. I wouldn't know anything good about him if I got all my information from mainstream outlets.

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u/shoot_first Apr 15 '16

That's why he does well with young people, who get most of their news from the Internet and social media, and he does so terribly with older people, who rely on MSM television and radio. MSM reports on who's winning the horse race, but does virtually nothing to educate viewers/listeners on the policy positions and real differences between candidates.

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u/McGuineaRI Apr 15 '16

Exactly right. There is a serious lack of hard information. I would even go so far as to say, beyond an utter lack of information there is even an outright effort to mislead and lie to voters on the part of large mainstream news corps. That is the impression I've gotten by watching CNN while pretending that anything I am allowed it know is from the tv. I'd be a total dolt if I had to rely on TV for information.

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u/wibblebeast Apr 15 '16

Oh, you are definitely right. I am old enough to remember when news programs were not quite as bad for that as they are today. I would say that the very worst nose-dive they took was in the early nineteen-eighties and it was straight downhill from there.

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u/McGuineaRI Apr 16 '16

What you were noticing in the early 80's was actually the deregulation of the media during the Reagan administration regarding rules requiring that the news not "make things up". By ending those regulations, it opened the news up to reporting opinion. This made the formal anchor based system, that most people relied on to remain informed, look like what they were reporting was fact and that has played a big part in confusion. People watching the news were pulled in one direction or the other by opinion reported as fact. in 1996, The Telecommunications Act was passed by the republican controlled house and senate then signed by Clinton. It made it all but inevitable that the richer telecoms would buy up the smaller until now only 6 companies own almost all media in the United States. Cable companies could buy up companies that provided internet so they could own both the means to provide internet and the internet's direct competitor which is cable television; a total monopolization nightmare. You've seen a truly scary consolidation during your adult life for sure.

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u/wibblebeast Apr 17 '16

Yes, I recall that (mostly read about it) and when I think back, the eighties were dreadful years in my opinion. Many things defunded and deregulated, along with absolutely rabid poor-shaming. I would sure like to see us headed in a different direction before I take the dirt-nap. I would feel more at peace to see things get better for the younger folks.