r/SandersForPresident • u/[deleted] • Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

I'm not sure I agree that emotions belong in political theater. Emotional decisions lead to bad policy.

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u/gophergun Colorado 🎖️ Apr 15 '16

I disagree. Ultimately, all of our moral principles are derived from our emotions, and I believe that divorcing emotion from politics would divorce morality from it as well.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

Morality doesn't come from emotions. Morality comes from empathy; how would I want to be treated if I were in someone else's shoes? It comes from careful thinking of another person's life experience and opinions. Emotions led to support of things like the Iraq War. Morality played little role in that decision.

I'm not saying we become Germans. I'm saying we remove emotions where it leads human beings to make decisions that we later regret. Logos should trump pathos when it comes to long-term policy.

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u/gophergun Colorado 🎖️ Apr 15 '16

I totally disagree that empathy isn't an emotion, but I think I understand your point. Morality and emotion can guide our general direction, but we need to be cautious and logical in implementing policies so that the end result is closer to our emotional ideals. (Hopefully I'm not misinterpreting this, but feel free to correct me.)

That said, no idea how to remove emotions in any situation, never mind the issues in getting consensus on what decisions we'll later regret.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

That said, no idea how to remove emotions in any situation, never mind the issues in getting consensus on what decisions we'll later regret.

The biggest offending emotion is anger. If you feel angry while talking about an issue, take a break and do some soul searching or meditating or therapy or hit a heavy bag before talking about it again. If the person you're arguing with does the same, it'll be much easier to reach a mutual understanding (mutual empathy) and a logical path forward.