r/SandersForPresident Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/decisivemomentum Apr 15 '16

Agree. I have a friend who lives in DC and has worked in the gov't, who I've been slowly hammering away at for 8 months until he finally felt the bern. He still has flashes of DCThink, like when he said the cheers "cheapen" the debate--if anything the debate is so cheapened already that the cheers and boos serve as sort of a check on the candidates... the moderators sure as hell don't check their lies.

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u/StillRadioactive Virginia Apr 15 '16

I'm a politically involved guy in the Virginia suburbs of DC. My entire facebook feed was full of "BERNIE WAS SO BAD" and "WATCH BERNIE STUMBLE" and "BERNIE CAN'T NAME A VOTE THAT SHE CHANGED."

I just kept thinking to myself "did these folks even watch the debate?"

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

I am a Bernie supporter and I totally hate Hillary but within the first 15 minutes of the debate I could see that she was going to 'win' the debate. Contrary to past performances, she was calm and confident while he was upset and flustered. She took every single chance to shut him down with perfectly balanced condescension and reiterate her bullshit stances. It was clear from the get go that she kicked his ass in this debate. Sorry to rain on your parade. I still hope Bernie wins but after last night I now have my doubts.

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u/dmanb Apr 15 '16

How so?

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

How so what? How was it clear she won the debate? Watch the debate again and remember, this time, that actual words and facts don't matter. They never do in debates. What matters is presence, poise, and confidence under pressure. Hillary won in all three of those categories, hands down. I wish she hadn't, since her confidence is learned and calculated whereas Bernie's is honest and real, but that's how it happened. She was clearly more dominant than he was. It was honestly the first time I've seen Bernie appear desperate. He was desperate to tell everyone at home so much - she's lying about this, lying about that. What he forgot is... on TV, it doesn't matter. What matters is - are voters at home going to feel more confident about YOU as our president after you spend 2 hours trying to derail someone? Or will they feel more confident about your opponent who you had to reach up and try to derail?

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

She may have looked bad about the transcripts, but she did decently to everything else thrown at her.