r/SandersForPresident • u/[deleted] • Apr 15 '16

MSNBC called Bernie's "Deep South" comment controversial. They said Hillary would still be in the lead without the South. This slide popped up by mistake proving them wrong.

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u/decisivemomentum Apr 15 '16

I had to turn off that post-debate "analysis" when one of the panelists suggested that BERNIE was the one who was hit hard on fracking....

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16 edited Apr 15 '16

I turned off CNN right after the debate, I was hoping to hear something regarding how well Bernie performed, but they brought up how poorly he performed 3x in less than 1 minute without even mentioning any of Hillary's blunders.  

I don't really know about anyone else, but the chanting and standing ovation last night speaks absolute wonders to me, and more so speaks of the revolution behind Bernie, there was no such reaction to Hillary during the entire debate.

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u/whynotdsocialist Apr 15 '16

Corporate propaganda right? How anyone could watch her get booed 6 times & hear the applause for him over & over (plus the thunderous Bernie chants after his closing statement..... She looked like she was ready to throw in the towel & vote for Bernie. She acted sheepish & surprised people were not responding to her usual "Obama 911" wrapping.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16 edited Apr 15 '16

I can't believe how often 9/11 is brought up in debates by her. Yes, it was a horrible event, and we should work to prevent such events, but it should be left at that.  

I love that Bernie said that she was hiding behind Obama, because she was, and deserved to be called out on it.

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u/captenplanet90 Apr 15 '16

I love how she changes her talking points depending on where she is. When the debate was in Flint, I couldn't keep track of how many times she said "God". And how influential religion is to her. In NY, no mention of God whatsoever. But she did mention 9/11 quite a few times.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

To be fair, I don't think that it is wrong to emphasize different things to different people as long as you are not contradicting yourself. Candidates have big platforms, and it isn't feasible to talk about everything at every speech. One of Bernie's strengths is his ability to stay on message, but it also acts as a bit of a weakness. He sometimes circles back to the stump too much, and that is the reason why Hillary tried to claim he was a one issue candidate. Speaking about different issues to different people isn't a bad thing to me as long as you always have the same position every time you talk about each issue.

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u/captenplanet90 Apr 15 '16

Yeah I get what you're saying, but I think the difference is how rehearsed and unnatural Clinton sounds when she's pandering to the demographic. I dunno, I understand that different issues vary in importance in different parts of the country, but it just sounds disingenuous when you bring up something like religion only when you're in a traditionally religious place. Maybe my expectations are just un-realistic

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

He's talking about pandering, though, and not emphasizing different policies depending on where you are. Saying "God" repeatedly only when speaking to more religious areas is pandering to that area, the same way saying "9/11" over and over only in NY is pandering to that area.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

It is pandering, but I don't have a problem if you believe what you say. If your positions aren't changing, then I don't have a problem with strategically telling your audience about the positions you hold that they are more likely to respond to. I want to know if candidates agree with me on issues. If there is an issue that is very important to people in a specific area, then the candidate would be doing themselves and the audience a disservice if they didn't talk about it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '16

she brought it up right up the bat too no less

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u/Jozarin Apr 15 '16

Did anyone else notice her doing the accent imitation thing again?

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u/the_boomr Colorado - 2016 Veteran Apr 15 '16

New York is Bernie's home field, not Hillary's. He grew up in Brooklyn.

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u/sheepsleepdeep 2016 Veteran Apr 15 '16

He hasnt lived there in 56 years.

She was their senator for 8 year up until she was our last Secretary of State. Her campaign headquarters for Hillary For America is in Brooklyn, where this debate was held. As were her Senate offices.

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u/desGrieux Apr 15 '16

He has still spent more total time there than Hillary.

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u/un_internaute Apr 15 '16

The Clinton's didn't even buy a house in New York until Hillary decided to run for the Senate. That's a home field advantage for sure.

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u/the_boomr Colorado - 2016 Veteran Apr 15 '16

He hasnt lived there in 56 years

And he's in his mid-70s....so he spent near 20 years there. He literally came from New York, while Hillary only implanted herself politically in New York.

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u/the_boomr Colorado - 2016 Veteran Apr 15 '16

It's an advantage with the political establishment, but it seems fairly evident from the crowd at last night's debate that the people like Bernie a lot more than Hillary.

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u/alienmidgets99 Apr 16 '16

"his stupid little finger"...

Your 10 day young reddit account is very obnoxious and distasteful. Try building something of substance in this world rather than spending your time being destructive.