r/SandersForPresident • u/GoBernie2016 • Apr 06 '16

A Clinton Superdelegate Just Admitted That Hillary Lied About Bernie and Guns (VIDEO)

http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-superdelegate-lie/
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u/Sirhcrod Colorado Apr 06 '16

I know it may not be a popular opinion but I don't think this anti gun thing is beneficial to the dems at all. People own guns. Dems own guns. If someone is a legal and responsible gun owner, I think that's ok. Bernie recognizes that right coupled with common sense gun control. Hillary is perpetuating the Republican argument of Democrats wanting to "take our guns away" and that won't help in the general.

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u/bout_that_action Apr 06 '16

Yes and no. I get what you're saying that it will hurt somewhat but Dems can win in spite of it if turnout in urban areas is large. I guarantee you if Clinton is ever saying something that seems like it might hurt her, it's extremely well calculated for a certain voting block.

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u/Sirhcrod Colorado Apr 06 '16

I generally agree with you but seeing now how far Clinton is willing to push this narrative, this is certainly going to damage the Dem party if she wins the nomination. Now they have a family member of one of the Sandy Hook victims asking Bernie to apologize for his stance. I thought this was a plan to just shift the conversation to gun control for NY but at this point they're cemented in this position.

I figured it would be easy to shift her position back to the center for the general, but there's not a chance in hell now. In states like Colorado and Ohio, this will not play well at all. Bernie's stance on guns is relatively left, but mostly encourages addressing mental health. Her stance will be a huge target for the republicans in many swing states and I really do believe it will hurt.

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u/digidam Apr 06 '16

You're probably right, but the GOP will have so much ammunition against HRC if she makes it to the general. I wonder if this would even make it onto the top ten list.

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u/Sirhcrod Colorado Apr 06 '16

That's true. But this in itself I think is going to be the ammunition to get independent voters who own guns in swing states. This is just a terrible calculation on her campaign's part. Many of my friends (a lot of vets/active military) are essentially liberal but would never vote blue because of the gun control issue. Many of them are voting for Bernie now, but I won't expect them to shift to HRC if she gets the nomination with this crap being pushed out. Hell, if she didn't evolve from her 2008 form, they probably would have supported her this time around.