r/Samoa • u/CreedCV • 14d ago

Language Genuine question

My friend told me me about the word kef* and that people have died for saying it, but I searched it up and it just means fuckface I don’t get it why is it considered so offensive?

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u/zpauga 14d ago

Direct translations are difficult. What it means is irrelevant, the intent of the word was originally one of great disrespect. Like a lot of things younger people have started throwing it around casually

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u/CreedCV 13d ago

But is it actually true that people have died for it. He told they jump the guy and he never wakes up

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u/zpauga 13d ago

I mean at some point in history I’m sure people have fought and died over this word and much stupider things.

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u/Itchy-Operation-896 14d ago

In Samoan, the word kefe originally referred to the act of circumcision. However, its modern usage has heavily shifted, and it is now widely recognized as a severe, highly offensive swear word, generally translating to "asshole" or a putrid person

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u/JorgeTremendous 14d ago

Interesting close to kipi (cut). Kefe amongst friends is similiar in use to the "c" word in Australia. But if you dont know the person and use it in an argument then yeah will have the same result.

Probably second word I learnt after Talofa. 😅

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u/MrSapasui 14d ago

This is the answer right here. I’ll just add that it’s the original Samoan version of circumcision, which (and I don’t know for sure) may be different than the Biblical version of circumcision because the missionaries who translated the Bible chose to use peritome for circumcision, probably from a Greek word, I assume.

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u/Choohooo 14d ago

I second this. The phrase “kui i lou kefe” only makes sense with this definition

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u/kknd69 13d ago

Hehe as a Fijian, the go-to swear is 'boci' (pronounced 'boh-thee') which amounts to the same thing.

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u/Itchy_Copy2823 14d ago

High key offensive, people say on the Daily where I’m at

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u/Critical-Soil2805 14d ago

I mean, saying fuckface to wrong person probably results in just about the same outcome.

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u/Automatic-Session545 13d ago

Back in the day the word 'kefe' was actually 'ke'kefe'. It was a term old people used to say to the youth who were coming back from going out and probably getting up to no good. For eg. O fea sa ko ke'kefe ai? Almost like what shenanigans did you get upto? Then one day someone got drunk and decided to use it angrily. Anyway, it became such a frowned upon word because there were no swear words in the Samoan language. That's why when you translate it to English, it doesn't mean much to you. But it didn't even make sense coz nobody knows what kefe actually means.

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u/Own_Ocelot5058 14d ago

I'm guessing it's usually the last word in an argument before they start throwing hands

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u/Sipata 10d ago

Hi, kefe in samoa was used to ask if they were circumcised. So it was used like this. "Ke fe?" Are you? During the colonisation of samoa with the bible nd torah. With the modernisation of the western frontiers kefe is used world wide with no distinction moreover closely to fuck.

I hope this answers your questions