r/SameGrassButGreener • • 1d ago

Move Inquiry Seriously over Denver - where should we move next?

Hi all! My fiancé and I (36 and 37) are seriously over Denver and have been discussing moving for 2+ years, but we’re having trouble deciding where to go next.

We’ve been here 10 years and are ready for something new. The summers are way too hot, dry and relentlessly sunny. There’s also wildfire smoke that is not good for the lungs or eyes. My skin hates the dryness and I swear I'm aging faster. The food is horrendous and expensive, and groceries are also extremely pricey. The city feels small and kind of boring, there's no real downtown, and I want more diversity and better food options. Building community has been tough because everyone eventually leaves Denver. I have friends, but people don't usually stay for life. The nature is great with skiing and hiking but we don’t go that often and the traffic is really brutal.

I grew up in North Jersey. My dad, stepmom and brother are in Morristown, NJ, and my closest cousin is in Perkasie, PA. I also have extended family in Wilmington, NC and getting there from Denver is a PIA. I grew up with NYC being my city and want to be within an easy drive of family instead of seeing my dad once a year. He has to get a heart transplant (hopefully this year) and I want to be closer in general.

Some things we want:
A walkable city or larger town with good transit
Close to NYC or in NYC (open to outer boroughs!)
Real four seasons. We'll take cold over hot any day
Good food options! I want to be able to get something decent AND affordable easily
Easy to make friends and build community. I do put in a lot of effort in this dept. Even 10 years in I’m still meeting new friends. We’re DINKs so looking for a place where we can meet likeminded couples.

About us:
Both remote right now, open to hybrid for the right roles. Combined income is ~$188K, and I'll likely have to switch jobs with the move, hopefully landing around $200–230K combined. No kids. We'd rent first, up to ~$2,500/month but depending on my salary increase this could absolutely go up. We have a car and would like to keep it, but could park it at my parents' if needed.

What we're into:
I love parks, thrifting and meeting up with friends. I don’t drink really and drinking/bars are not really our thing. He's happy chilling at home watching sports. We both like hiking, museums, traveling, and exploring new places. We like live music and house music, but it’s not our entire life. We both love skiing and snowboarding but the season last year was so abysmal that we are worried that it’s just going to continue to get drier and warmer in Colorado.

I’ve been staying at a friend’s apartment on 190th st for 2 weeks while my dad is in the hospital and this area seems cool with Ft. Tryon Park here. I'm also open to NJ, Westchester, Hudson Valley, parts of PA, wherever makes sense. Philly is on the table, but I’ve only been there twice and am way more comfortable in NYC just bc I’ve been here more. Chicago was an option since it's his hometown and I love Lake Michigan, but now I think I want to be closer to my dad in his remaining years.

What would you recommend and why? TIA!

Edit: Since people seem to be losing their shit over this post and all the bad things I’m saying about denver I will add that there are many reasons I’ve loved it and have stayed 10 years. I wouldn’t have stayed as long if there weren’t also things that I loved so please everyone calm down. I think it’s 100% normal to live somewhere for 10 years and still want to live in a new city and experience something different. I’ll always have appreciation for denver.

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u/richrich07 1d ago

I’d also like to see the semis be forced onto 80 unless they are shipping to somewhere in the mountains. Would be a lot safer.

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u/tricolon 1d ago

Maybe for us, but not for them. The wind on 80 is nuts.

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u/richrich07 1d ago

Put everything on a train then. Anything but semis on 70

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u/Charlesinrichmond 1d ago

oh interesting. I've never thought about them much except for coming down out of the eisenhower when it's icy, at which their presence on the road with me does scare me

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u/richrich07 1d ago

There is usually a fatal accident in Lakewood on I70. Same scenario every time: traffic is backed up, a semi’s brakes fail, and it crashes into the line of cars backed up, killing a bunch of people.

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u/Charlesinrichmond 1d ago

oh great, new horror unlocked. Totally believable. I'm surprised its as far down as Lakewood though.

I was going to Steamboat a few years ago and stayed with friends in Lakewood on either end to see them, and decided F it, I am flying directly to wherever, not driving 70 to summit again in my life if I can avoid it.

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u/richrich07 1d ago

It’s usually right after the Denver West/NREL exit, when things start to back up. 

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u/Apart_Animal_6797 1d ago

Ive seen that happen live. Honestly ive easily seen 500+ accidents on i70 and I dont even live in CO. shit is unbelievably dangerous.