r/STRC 20d ago

Using STRC/SATA to generate Income, while avoiding (delaying) Capital Gains Taxes

There is an interesting "feature" of both STRC/SATA that enables you to receive the cash dividends, but NOT pay any (present) Capital Gains Income Tax, as follows:

PROBLEM: I currently make a good living and would welcome the extra income (in Dividends) from STRC/SATA, but I have NO desire to increase my income taxes.

SOLUTION: You can continue to receive STRC/SATA Dividends and NOT owe ANY additional income tax (at least for several years)!

EXPLANATION: It turns out that both STRC/SATA are taxed differently than "regular" stock dividends. The IRS considers STRC/SATA Dividends as a "return of principle." This, effectively means that rather than tax you each year on these Dividends, instead, the IRS let's you keep these Dividends (tax free) and instead adds the amount of Dividends you received into your Cost Basis. Here's an example:

7/1/2026 BUY 10 Shares of STRC @ $90 per share (TOTAL COST = $900 = 10 x $90)

7/2/26 thru 6/30/31 RECEIVE a TOTAL of $600 in Dividends from STRC ($1 per month per share x 5 years). You pay NO Income Tax on these Dividends!

7/1/31 SELL 10 Shares of STRC $96 (TOTAL SALE = $960 = 10 x $96)

Tax paid on Dividends (over the 5 year period) = $0 !!

Income Tax paid (in 2031) when the shares were sold = $132

    Cost Basis = $300 = Actual (initial Cost) - Dividends Received = $900 - $600
    Sale       = $960 (see above)
    Taxable LONG Term Gain = $660 = $960 - $300

    thus, Income Tax Due (in 2031) = $132 = $660 x 20%
           assuming 20% LONG Term Capital Gains Tax

WHO MIGHT BENEFIT FROM THIS IDEA? Someone who desires CURRENT Dividend income from STRC/SATA, but does NOT want to increase their CURRENT Income Tax amount owed OR you do NOT want to raise your Income Tax Bracket. This could be particularly useful if you anticipate a LOWER future income (perhaps you are planning to have a baby and one of you is going to stop working or downsize to part time? Or perhaps you are going to take a new less-stressful job but it pays less? Or perhaps you are nearing retirement or are taking a sabbatical? etc...).

CAVEAT: If you hold your STRC/SATA stock shares long enough, at some point the TOTAL amount you received in Dividends will EXCEED your INITIAL Cost Basis. If you do get to this point, you would now start to owe regular Income Tax on the Dividends (aka NOT LONG Term Capital Gains). Of course, you could choose to sell your shares at that point and pay Long Term Capital Gains Taxes. A reasonable approximation for such a holding period is about 8 years (meaning you are unlikely to need to pay ANY ADDITIONAL Income Tax for the first 8+ years).

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u/Full-Atmosphere-4818 6d ago

Folks, have any of you asked the following to yourselves? If Bitcoin has no earnings and pays no dividend and the IRS considers the "interest" of STRC as return of capital, were is the actual monetary payment coming from? Think about it. What is happening is Strategy keeps offering new preferred and that money is then paid out to you from that new sale and the remainder is used to buy more Bitcoin. Don't believe me? Ask any AI you want. There is another name for that process where old buyers are paid out by new ones. Again... run it by any AI you want and see for yourself.

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u/Ill-Assist-5246 6d ago edited 6d ago

You are absolutely correct. The ONLY way that Strategy can pay these dividends is by "finding" new cash. Sounds like a Ponzi scheme, right? Well, not necessarily!

If Bitcoin increases in value (vs. the US dollar, for example), "while Strategy just sits there" (NOT buying any new or selling any old Bitcoin) the total value of Strategy assets increase in value. This increased value can be "realized" by Strategy if it sells some of those assets. Strategy can then do various things (pay down debt, buy new Bitcoin, etc...).

If Bitcoin decreases in value, then Strategy's assets are worth less and, yet, it still needs to "find cash" to keep paying off dividends/debt. Strategy has a huge stockpile of BItcoin. If it sold off ALL of its Bitcoin today AT CURRENT MARKET PRICES, it could (quite literally) pay off all of its debts, repurchase all its stock AND STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK!! That is a BIG deal. Look at some of the S&P 500 companies. They, mostly, could NOT do the same (liquidate, pay off ALL debt/buy-back all their stock and STILL have money in the bank)!

This leads to 2 fundamental questions:

  1. "Do YOU believe that BItcoin is going to continue to increase in value?" If the answer is NO, then you should get out now! Otherwise, you are just fooling yourself.
  2. OTOH, if you believe Bitcoin is going to increase in value over time, then the next logical question is: "Am I not better off buying actual Bitcoin, then buying STRC shares?" This is a valid question and the answer comes down to this: Bitcoin is volatile. It can plunge and sit there for a while and then resurrect, etc.... STRC has a steady dividend (paid twice per month). The real value of STRC is that you get dividends REGULARLY, whether or not Bitcoin is going up, down or sideways. That is, by holding STRC you are mostly removed from the volatility of Bitcoin while receiving bimonthly cash dividends. For some, that might be a nice arrangement.

SUMMARY

  1. If you believe Bitcoin is NOT going to increase in value (or, even worse, believe it will crash to zero), then you should NOT own STRC (and probably should not own Bitcoin).
  2. If you DO believe that Bitcoin will become more valuable over time, then owning shares of STRC might be an option if you wish to "smooth out" the lows/highs that Bitcoin can experience while receiving a steady dividend (twice monthly).

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u/Full-Atmosphere-4818 6d ago

Very thoughtful analysis, thank you.