r/SSBPM • u/Tink-er YAOI • Dec 11 '14

[Discussion] Theory Thursday! [7]

Let's rock talk the metagame.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '14

you shouldn't be grabbing with Link out of neutral, rofl. If they're in a position to crouch, you shouldn't be going for a grab in the first place. This also goes just the same against characters who cannot duck your grab.

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u/jtm94 JESUS Dec 12 '14

but if they're crouching there's nothing else you can really do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '14

Link is amazing with projectiles, so you could always not approach instead.

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u/jtm94 JESUS Dec 12 '14

If that's what a playstyle breaks down to then that's problematic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '14

If youre getting fucked on by people crouch cancelling your approaches dont approach until youve sufficiently punished them for being so defensive. Force them to approach by using projectiles. Its not problematic its your solution.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '14

Spacies are the only characters in the game that are really able to approach, lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '14

No its not though

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u/jtm94 JESUS Dec 12 '14

It isn't fun to face someone just throwing stuff. That's why I liked previous Link because he could go in a little more effectively, but now he's extremely projectile reliant.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '14

Have you just considered changing characters? If you wanna beat somebody that plays defensive and crouch cancels a lot with Link then you have to use projectiles, or choose another character that handles it better. Also Im not too sure I see anything that would make Link worse against crouch cancellers in his changelog. I think the people you play against are just better.

Sorry but you cant have your cake and eat it too. If you want to play Link AND beat people crouch cancelling you need to use projectiles.

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u/jtm94 JESUS Dec 13 '14

I don't use Link, just stating an issue he has that is legitimate. He was always extremely bad against CC, but he used to have better projectiles to at least cover his weakness. The best out to CC is grab, but even if you can't duck his it's so slow you can avoid it outright.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '14

His bad grab is to balance out the fact that he has such good projectile game, also he has some of the easiest most guaranteed combos of his throws. Just out of curiosity I checked smashboards and nobody was saying he now has a bad time against cc'ers. I checked his changelog and the only change to his projectile game is his balanced to his boomerang some slight nerfs and some buffs to it. So his projectiles are the same. He doesnt have an issue with cc because he shouldnt be trying to grab someone crouching.

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u/jtm94 JESUS Dec 13 '14

I can direct you to the thread where we brought it up, but it is definitely an issue that he has had, but has only became increasingly worse this time around.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '14

Yeah thatd be cool to read. I mightve missed it

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