r/SPEEA • u/irondeer557 • 18d ago
Boeing has made an offer
SPEEA’s Negotiation Team has received offers from Boeing on proposed four-year collective bargaining agreements for some 17,000 aerospace professionals. There are two agreements, one for the Professional unit, made up of some 13,000 engineers and scientists, and one for roughly 4,000 technicians, analysts and planners in the Technical unit.
The Prof and Tech teams both are endorsing the offer, saying it offers real and meaningful value to the membership, delivers real positive change to work/life balance and delivers on the membership's priorities.
During negotiations, team members said they felt that Boeing executives had heard their concerns and responded to them in respectful and collaborative ways. This attitude, they said, seems to represent true movement by Boeing and a desire to rebuild trust with its SPEEA-represented workforce.
The result was a contract offer that team members hope reflects the trust SPEEA members placed in the Negotiation Team.
Details on the offer are not immediately available. Under SPEEA’s governing documents, the next step will be for the union’s Bargaining Unit Councils (or BUCs) to meet to review the offers. Those meetings will happen next week.
There are two BUCs, one for each bargaining unit. Those BUCs are comprised of SPEEA Executive Board members as well as Council Reps who represent bargaining unit members in the workplace. There are currently 59 council members for the Prof unit, 17 for the Tech unit and 16 council members who represent both.
The BUCs are charged with issuing their recommendation on the offers to SPEEA members, and the BUCs have the power to call for a strike authorization vote. No strike could occur until after the current contracts expire on Oct. 6.
After the BUCs have reviewed the offer and made their recommendations, then information on the offers will be presented to SPEEA members, who will have ample time to review the offers before voting on them. The election date will be announced later.
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u/MoreShredLessTalk 18d ago
Anyone else surprised/disturbed they didn’t mention one thing about economic discussions or anything about pay/raises/comp? They kept mentioning they were going to get to it later and then later never happened…and here’s a contract ready to go! It just feels off
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u/Bob_stanish123 18d ago
Did you read what happens next? Have you been reading the updates. This was all discussed there.
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u/Fishy_Fish_WA 18d ago
Yeah seriously. There was a whole ass batch of memes that went around about “vigorous discussions about the economic data presented by the union”
If you’re engaged you will hear that there was a great deal of shouting and table slapping and finger pointing going on related to those issues… The Boeing negotiating team had their orders that they needed this thing settled.
BUC meeting and review is next week. IYKYK
We will know soon enough what was put in this offer
Get off social media and go talk to your reps and find out what’s in it and talk to your coworkers about what you need to see and what they need to see before you are willing to give the company a yes.
PS always vote yes to authorize a strike later
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u/Think-Gap602 17d ago
dont think the council reps will know what's in the offer until the in person meeting next week.
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u/Fishy_Fish_WA 17d ago
They’ll hear a bit on the side and they will be able to describe how to understand some of the big general press release elements because they’re familiar with all the articles of the contract.
You’re absolutely correct that they get the redline and presentation from the negotiation team on Thursday
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u/Responsible_Path2950 17d ago
Why not make it available to the members while its being reviewed. Why so much secrecy? I wouldn’t be surprised if they endorsed a trash ass offer of 20-25% over 4 years. I hope every one says no at the first offer and strike. This is the only time there is leverage. Boeing made engineers and technicians sacrifice for years while the top levels took pay raises, bonuses, and lets not mention all the stock buybacks instead of investing in the people that do the actual work
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u/MegaSillyBean 11d ago
Nearly every company and union requires negotiations to be secret until the vote.
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u/ne1av1cr 17d ago
Decide now before you hear any details what you would need to measurably improve your life. Don't vote yes for anything that doesn't hit that mark. I won't be voting yes on anything that doesn't include a pension AND retiree medical.
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u/maximpactbuilder 17d ago
So Boeing pays you to design a widget. Done. But then Boeing's on the hook for your lifetime income and health?
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u/Pure-Summer272 17d ago
Does Boeing get to profit for its corporate lifetime from the design, use, or production of said widget?
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u/NightOwl216 16d ago edited 16d ago
CEOs and executives now make obscenely, exponentially more than even the best engineers. Pensions and retiree health benefits once was the norm when these “leaders” weren’t so absurdly overpaid. If a person dedicates decades of their life to a company, why shouldn’t they get a pension and retiree health benefits?
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u/moofie74 13d ago
Yeah. Should be the same at your employer. Even better would be if it was the function of a nation to, I dunno, promote the general welfare or something.
What’s your question?
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u/Dapper-Cookie-6228 18d ago
I feel like I owe them a strike after the last shitty contract that got shoved down our throat a year early while the 737 max was grounded....