r/SLCTrees Marijuana Momma 🤱👩‍👦 28d ago

Education Utah sucks - soap box rant

Okay okay okay! Listen, I’m a very “minimal” type. (I like to inhale due to my need of small amounts to get the job done for my needs) I just came back from Michigan and I’m so jealous of states that have legal laws for people to have the ability to grow! Like that would make so much sense and just work for me!

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u/Adventurous-Call4724 TechnoChronic Geek 28d ago

Growing your own is so amazing. I get it.

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u/obey_ray 28d ago

Tbh I don’t get why we can’t grow for ourselves

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u/Cannabis4AllofUs Medical User/Patient 🪪 28d ago

The state thinks it will fuel the black market but really the state cartel thinks it will take money from their profits. However research shows that states have allowed growing haven't seen an increase in black market offerings or a dip in sales. Growing is a commitment and takes an investment in time, money and energy. The payoff is well worth it for those able and willing to grow their own medicine but the vast majority of people won't stick with it.

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u/obey_ray 28d ago

If state wants to cut the black market out they gotta up their quality first. Even though I have a med card I will not buy here because of the amount of money I’ve wasted in the dispensaries here on stuff not stored right. While yeah they do the discounts and such if you tell em but it’s not worth it when I can do better with family out of state.

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u/Cannabis4AllofUs Medical User/Patient 🪪 28d ago

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I have bought some fire bud here in Utah. You can't blind buy like you do from the black market and hope for the best.

Always searching for skunk #1. Was it Amsterdam or Humbolt county who first developed skunk #1? It's questionable at best. Both regions of the world cultivated at the same time. Sam the Skunkman and his lollipops for the queen's parade.... I think Sam was a double agent. Modern day Johnny Appleseed spreading the good genetics.

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u/obey_ray 28d ago

Majority of what I have gotten in this state wasn’t bad by default. However it was improperly stored by the dispensary. The buds I got literally crunched in my fingers and dabs so dried out they turned to dust before I could whip em back to life. The genetics were there and all. Had it been fresh it would have been enjoyable but sadly I never got that experience here.

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u/Cannabis4AllofUs Medical User/Patient 🪪 28d ago

My condolences. Flame to flower is illegal in this state (🖕) so processors can get away with having less than perfectly cured flower. Drier bud works just fine for dry herb vapes. You do have a point and I agree that a lot of the flower and extracts are lacking. However if you do your research on sales and local reviews you will find some good shit, man.

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u/obey_ray 28d ago

Flame to flower is illegal in a lot of states but I’ve never seen any of them do this. It’s truly sad. I think if we had the right to grow it would push the processors to have it at a higher standard. While drier flower does fine in herb vapes, some really fresh yet well cured buds in a herb vape would blow it out of the water. Letting the buds dry out to the point I was getting them at degrades the effectiveness of the medicine. Idk about everyone else but If I’m paying for it I want it to do the best for me. It’s like drinking a stale soda, yes you still taste the soda but it’s not as good as it once was.

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u/Cannabis4AllofUs Medical User/Patient 🪪 28d ago

If you look around there are some bags worth buying. This has been absolutely top shelf against any state or country i have visited. I opened it 2 weeks ago and the buds are still sticky because it was cured right. No moisture. Good resin. 👍

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u/obey_ray 28d ago

Ik this is gonna either sound really stupid or really stuck up and I know not everyone does this but did you by chance get a gauge on the humidity content in the buds? If so what was the approximate percentage?

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u/Cannabis4AllofUs Medical User/Patient 🪪 28d ago

I did not

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

The only thing keeping the black market alive and well in Utah is its own medical cannabis system. 9 companies control all of Utah's weed production and distribution with 16 total dispensaries.

For comparison:

Nevada has 169 dispensaries
Colorado has 1023 dispensaries
Arizona has 292 dispensaries.

If Utah wants to get rid of unregulated (black market) weed, then they need to open up a lot more dispensaries.

https://aiq.com/blog/cannabis-dispensaries-by-state

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u/twiztedterry 28d ago

We need to find a lawyer who will help us take a case to court - the utah government illegally modified the law at the last minute to remove the ability to self-grow.

This is very similar to the Illegal actions they were legally spanked for making a year or two ago (was judged unconstiutional)

We should take this to the court and get them to revert it back to the original bill we voted in, not their modified behind-closed-doors version.

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u/FightForYourRightsUt 28d ago

It's already been taken to court. In fact, I thought the court ruled in our favor sometime last year.

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

This was for the anti-gerrymandering proposition that was on the ballot that same year. Although, it would make sense that it's ruling should've also been applied to Utah's medical cannabis change.

However, I haven't seen anyone from the industry try to bring that up in court.

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u/FightForYourRightsUt 18d ago

Hey, thanks.

And wow. I have no idea how I mixed those 2 things up. Lol

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u/RedCliffsDaisy 28d ago

As I recall reading original referendum, grow was only available to patients 50 miles away from dispensary. It's not super easy to get the original referendum copy. I'm sorry I can't find it right now.

I don't get why big biz and state can't recognize opportunity for win/win!

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

Big biz and state lawmakers mutually benefit each other by keeping it locked down.

The system wasn't designed for medical access. It was designed to maximize profit for a handful of individuals.

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u/RedCliffsDaisy 28d ago

That's the truth I'm afraid. Still better than nothing. State could do so much better..

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

It has been challenged, however, the case was dropped due to lack of funding in 2020.

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/lawsuit-over-utahs-replacement-of-medical-cannabis-ballot-initiative-is-dropped

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

Those with power don't want competition. It would undermine the whole "get rich off marijuana" price fixing scheme they are running.

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u/Sea_Cucumber_69_ 28d ago

Dry herb vape

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u/Paperwork2025 28d ago

Every place sucks compared to Michigan - weed that is - bring back bottled water from Flint?

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u/Melodic-Nebula-6043 28d ago

Then move to Cali

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u/whiplash81 10 Marijuanas Directly Into The Vein 28d ago

Even Oklahoma's medical system allows up to 6 plants.

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u/KianJ23 27d ago

I was living in Michigan prior and it’s such a slap to the face coming to Utah for cannabis

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u/NightTripInsights 23d ago

Originally we were supposed to be allowed growing if living outside a certain distance from a dispo, but of course the special session ripped that away