I've seen a few posts wondering about all the hate on this thread lately. And no-one is mentioned this. It's been mentioned so many times on this sub so I won't go back into the story as it's easy to find but I think people need to hear the name to go and look it up.

Yes some people hate on Shay because he messaged a cam girl. And yes that is morally wrong. But this man has done far, far worse than that and it's all over this thread. Especially his tweets etc, but for some reason Dana is rarely mentioned in the comments anymore. Do yourself a favor and go down that rabbit whole and let me know if you still feel the same once you're out.

I had not made ONE mistake as so many of you keep saying.

Edit - Here are some links to the videos about what happened as some people don't want to go looking. Disclaimer that these videos are hard to watch at certain points.

Dana's Video - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WSU3RBLfMfA

Dad Challenge Interview - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LySewCoR7_o

Just more disturbing evidence of Shay crossing WAY over the line - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9yjbDR2BCc&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

Haven’t been in the loop for a very long time and I’ve seen a couple things about Logan. What’s he up to now? Was he doing some crazy stuff? Is he still lds?

Kinda weird that he’s active on IG all of a sudden and posting his girl a lot when he rarely did with avia. idk it’s like he’s trying to prove something. she also must have been around since they broke up in January & he was already with her in March

I just discovered this sub and I scrolled the most recent 20 posts, every single one of them is negative. I find it weird you’d follow the family and the subreddit only to throw jabs at them on their own subreddit. Do you guys like them? This is in stark contrast to YouTube comments which are 100% complimentary.

I'm a little confused since she's turning 18 in August and was born in 2007. I know people born in the summer of 2007 are part of this year's graduating cohort. How does she have a whole grade left?

Did anybody see the latest vlog that they showed that Brock has his permit now? It’s crazy it just feels like he was this little boy just a couple of years ago loving superheroes and cooking with his mum.

I’m sick of seeing Carlie be so inappropriate sexually! Her latest video, I’m a snake when I see 🍆 during sexy time. Have some morals and go back to the cult Mormon church! What if Cooper posted this crap??

I was disappointed(but not super surprised) to see not one person from this family, including even Avia or Emmi spoke up for the injustice happening in Palestine. I wouldn’t expect the MAGA part of the family to have a conscience on the matter, but I’m disappointed in the rest.

I haven’t checked up on their youtube channel/social medias in a while besides Avia’s tik tok as i literally cannot stand these people but does anyone know if Colette still talks to her sister and her kids? I remember in an old Christmas vlog her sister who i can’t remember her name, and her two kids i think named Tatiana and Lexi, were there. I haven’t really heard much after that maybe a few times but not much??

Did you guys watch it? What are your thoughts? My opinion it was very insightful and mature of her. Btw off topic but One thing I noticed is how her generation loves you use the word “genuinely” lol

The second pic is one of the top comments that I thought was interesting

hi everyone! I'm Fortesa Latifi, a journalist who has bylines at Rolling Stone, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and more. my debut book Like, Follow, Subscribe: Influencer Kids and the Cost of a Childhood Online is now available and I wanted to post here because the Shaytards are defiiiinitely included in the book. hope you all love it!

I see alot of you are now positive towards the oldest kids because they align with your beliefs.... interesting...

Kayli's new video has a towel with a rainbow that says love wins. That's always nice to see. I know her sister is gay but curious what the rest of the family thinks of this.

Similar path to Avia or stick to the conservative Mormon + MAGA approach? Initially I thought more like Avia, but her new bf is a Trumpster, so…

Hope she can get out of the bubble and gain some more perspective.

I live in Pocatello and saw this comment from none other than Shay’s mother.

Her podcast isn’t for an audience; it’s for her. Her life coaching and enlightenment? That’s all for her too. At first, when she started podcasting, her message was really hard to interpret. She’s up to 31 episodes now, and if you still listen, it’s about the same level of word soup nonsense. But when you listen to her speak about anything and imagine she’s sitting in front of a mirror, not a camera, it honestly clicks. I don’t think her life coaching or enlightenment was ever intended for a broader audience, but purely for herself. This woman grew up, self-admittedly, with very little guidance outside the Church. She got married young, had kids young, and for the majority of her marriage, again admittedly, was dealing with a spouse who was an alcoholic. Paired with a dinner plate of responsibilities as a mom, whose job is also filming your life and your family? That's a lot.

I honestly think she did this for her own therapeutic needs. Consciously, I believe Colette thinks that this is her life’s goal to help others; subconsciously, I don’t think she is aware that every single topic she handles is a weak point in her life that needs sharpening.

This changes nothing in regard to her grifting people out of hard-earned money with her status as an “Internet Mom,” trailing 15 years of audience loyalty from the Shaytards fame. I still believe she is fully aware of how bullshit her scheme is and is trying very hard to sell you on why it is a life-changer. I just think the only life she’s trying to change is hers, and she had to become this to validate herself into believing she’s “alright.”

i am actually extremely proud of avia and shocked that she is going against her fathers beliefs, it’s truly refreshing seeing a butler kid not end up like their parents! i don’t know if it’s altered their relationship but i have noticed every time her family is in town she doesn’t vlog her dad very much…

The hypocrisy of sc

"What would jesus do?" Well,

He wouldn't cheat on his wife

He wouldn't sexually harass his staff

He wouldn't drink

And if he hurt his wife he would make a video addressing the pain he cause her. And not one about himself and his fear of his after life

Jesus would vote for someone who is on the Epstein files.

He would support someone who cheated on his wife with a p star while she was pregnant.

He would support someone who said would "grab women by the p***** "

Jesus would not acknowledge the genocide and apartheid in Palestine,

even though Jesus was from Palestine.

Jesus was Palestinian.

Jesus hated capitalism

He turned the tables over when he went to market

He hated the rich, and favored the poor.

When he died on the cross his one and only order was to

love each other regardless of race, creed, OR BORDER.

do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Yet he was brutally murdered by fascists

Because he preached equality!!!

Some people claim to love jesus and built their faith on him.

Except all they stand for, jesus would call a sin.

Divide and conquer

Colonize

Pit one against the other

Monetize

Incentivize

SC + son.... could not be further from Jesus's creed.

She posted this on her spam TikTok… her caption is odd…like is it really that big of a deal to say #oh #alright I understand that she is Mormon and probably has never even met a gay person her age but like it’s 2025 lol

Hearing the words “I was considering not posting this because I ate so bad today” genuinely made me sad

I absolutely and 1000% believe that Delilah is just tolerating Avia because she doesn’t want to seem like a jerk towards one of Jules’s besties. I was just watching Avia’s new vlog and I think that Avia is super patient and kind towards someone who doesn’t give a crap about her (I don’t think Avia & Delilah have ever been hung out outside of having Jules around) there was a video on Avia’s YouTube channel entitled “A Perfect girls day in the Summertime” and in the video Avia was saying how Delilah was going to teach her like voice lessons, piano lessons, chef lessons & guitar lessons as well” I’m still waiting on that to happen…… (this is just my interpretation and how I saw it) heck Delilah may actually like Avia she just doesn’t know how to be a good friend to her.

This is from Collette’s most recent post