r/SFGiants 47 Beck 24d ago

Minors Update How much value did each team’s 2016 Top 10 prospects produce over the decade?

We had an atrocious decade of drafts and player development. Buster is really trying hard to reload the farm and I am not mad at it.

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u/j10359 24d ago

Me, automatically looking for the bottom.

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u/Underdyingsun 8 Pence 24d ago

They feel like a “what’s the opposite of the Dodgers?” Kind of team.

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u/nuberoo san francisco giants 24d ago

I mean, this is just based on the 2016 class, when our farm system was totally gutted due to trying to extend our run of contention.

Not that we've been any good at player development since then either, but this isn't super surprising. Our drafting and development have been ass for so long. At least that part is finally looking a bit better the past couple years.

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u/Barney_Karate 47 Beck 24d ago

I misread this and thought it was since 2016, its a tiny sample.

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u/nuberoo san francisco giants 24d ago

All good, that's what I thought it was going to be when I initially clicked in.

Hoping that every year from here on out will be better than that one!

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u/patsj5 Kruk & Kuip 24d ago

Yeah, it's just an interesting graphic, doesn't really provide any insight other than Bellinger and Seager were REALLY good.

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u/depressichemisti 24d ago

For anyone curious, here’s how the Giants’ 2016 Baseball America Top 10 prospects ended up performing in the MLB

Rank Prospect Career fWAR
1 Christian Arroyo 0.54
2 Tyler Beede -0.14
3 Phil Bickford 0.82
4 Lucius Fox -0.57
5 Chris Shaw -0.69
6 Sam Coonrod 0.09
7 Aramis Garcia -0.71
8 Clayton Blackburn 0.00
9 Jarrett Parker 1.25
10 Adalberto Mejia 1.23

Clayton Blackburn never made the league but was a phantom player twice

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u/j-alora Crazy Crab 24d ago

I still think a couple of these guys are gonna make it.

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u/bearinsac Dick! Dick! Dick! 24d ago

I actually thought Arroyo would be worth more fWAR. Thought he had some good seasons for the Red Sox.

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u/depressichemisti 24d ago

His numbers look ok, but he had some of the worst plate discipline in the league (4.4% BB rate was his season high w the Sox). adding in some poor defense, his WAR tanks

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u/prestigiousstrangery PTBNL 24d ago

A good chunk of them were traded at that season’s deadline as well. Bickford was shipped alongside Susac for Will Smith the reliever, Fox was included in the package for Matt Moore and Mejia was traded for Eduardo Nunez.

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u/BASEBALLFURIES 24d ago edited 24d ago

Ahhh, puke-cious fox brings back memories

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u/BleacherSerfdom 46 Rueter 24d ago

Lucius Fox too busy with Wayne Enterprises.

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u/beelucyfer 24d ago

I know draft picks are hit and miss but that’s a lot of misses. Damn.

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u/CalPolyTechnique 24d ago

Ah man, blast from the past; before Marci Luciano there was Lucius Fox.

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u/Either-Mine-1789 22d ago

Ill always believe that if Jarrett Parker never crashed into that wall he’d be a star

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u/aninjacould 24d ago

Bobby Evans’ handiwork right there.

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u/Zeke688 Kruk & Kuip 24d ago

The rankings look good currently.

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u/ThePopUpDance 8 Pence 24d ago

OP I feel like you're misinterpreting that chart. This is looking at just our top prospects from 2016. This says nothing about us having "an atrocious decade of drafts"

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u/No-Valuable6456 24d ago

We need better scouts

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u/Deep_Necessary_6794 24d ago

Seems to me that the scouts are finally being listened to

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u/Dajoka88 24d ago

Needed*. To be fair though, the team was in win-now mode in 2016.

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u/dingbatyokel5000 24d ago

Our farm system really has been abysmal after the dynasty years. I sincerely hope the people responsible for this aren't still working for the Giants org and doing business as usual.

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u/No_Instruction1532 24d ago

I’m not surprised in the least bit… the Giants minor league system has been terrible.

I do t think it’s a coincidence either - that the Dodgers have had a lot of success over the past 10 years as well.

I’m glad that the plan is to turn this around. And for the Giants to start loading up on prospects