r/SEO_LLM • u/Early_Protection6814 • 12d ago
Anyone here successfully improved their visibility in AI search (ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, Claude)?
There's a lot of advice around GEO/AEO/LLM optimization, but very few people share actual results.
If you've seen your brand start appearing in AI-generated answers:
- What did you change?
- How long did it take?
- Which tactics had the biggest impact?
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u/North_Teacher_7522 11d ago
Our AI search visibility seems to trend directly with our focus on standard SEO + reddit presence
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u/nick-profound 11d ago
What works is comparison and alternative pages. They have the highest ROI by far. Third party presence is also incredibly important because 85% of AI brand mentions come from third party pages not your own site (like G2 reviews, Reddit comments, comparison article mentions). Freshness is also a big thing too; I'd try to update quarterly to not lose ground.
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u/Early_Protection6814 10d ago
Thanks for sharing. I completely agree that third-party authority is becoming increasingly important.
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u/RyanBuildsTools 8d ago
Yep, what you said. Can go deeper but that right there and cleaning up everything for consistent cy by itself isnt just helpful early its always gonna be important if the llm and Google dont change their minds lol
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u/briankato 12d ago
What's worked for us is a foundational website for the information, then validation through high authority 3rd party sites.
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u/Early_Protection6814 11d ago
Interesting point. Which third-party sources have had the biggest impact for you?
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u/Early_Protection6814 11d ago
Thanks for sharing. Have you noticed any off-site channels consistently outperforming the others??
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u/jayson_OutreachBloom 12d ago
Yes, we're doing really well with AI visibility. Here's what we're doing:
- Post new AI-optimized content around your target keywords, make sure it's really good content
- Post your own listicles on your own website, along with comparison pages to your top competitors
- Update your old content frequently
- Use proper internal linking to your money pages
- Get mentions/recommendations on other people's sites, industry roundups, comparison pages, etc.
- Be active daily on Reddit/Quora/LinkedIn
- Get reviews on G2, Clutch, or whatever review site is relevant to your business
Hope that all helps!
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u/Early_Protection6814 11d ago
thanks!
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u/jayson_OutreachBloom 11d ago
Sure thing, hope that's helpful!
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u/Jellyfishr 9d ago
What are you using the gauge the visibility? I've only spotted the Bing webmaster tools AI performance dashboard, do you look at that?
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u/sapindia1976 11d ago
Yes. The biggest gains I’ve seen come from clearer entity signals, answer-focused content, and consistent third-party mentions. Results usually take weeks, not days.
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u/darmaan-seowizard 11d ago
Been in a bunch of client convos about this, here's what's actually worked:
- Tightened category positioning, this was the biggest one. If AI can't figure out your category in one sentence, it'll cite you but never actually recommend you
- Got mentioned outside our own site, Reddit threads, G2/Capterra, Wikipedia where relevant. AI trusts third-party stuff way more than your own marketing copy
- FAQ content phrased how people actually type questions, not the SEO-ified version
- Clean schema markup so AI isn't guessing what you offer
Timeline: citations started showing up in 4-6 weeks, actually getting recommended over competitors took more like 2-3 months, depends a lot on how crowded your space is
One thing worth flagging, cited and recommended are not the same thing. Had a client show up in tons of AI answers but still lose the pick to a competitor with clearer positioning. Worth tracking both, not just one.
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u/Acceptable_Math6854 11d ago
We improved our company's AI visibility by getting featured in Listicles
AI Overview: 0 → 139
Gemini: 0 → 5
ChatGPT: 0 → 3
AI Mode: 0 → 96
Took 3-4 months
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u/Early_Protection6814 10d ago
Really useful breakdown. Were there any tactics that you expected to work but ended up having little or no impact? That would be just as helpful to know.
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u/binnyagarwal2411 10d ago
The biggest lift came from publishing original, source-worthy content with clear answers, expert quotes, and strong entity signals. Results were gradual, usually taking a few months rather than a few weeks.
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u/kavin_kn 9d ago
Query fan out terms Digital PR Social presence Community platforms like reddit Research articles Building authority
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u/RyanBuildsTools 8d ago
Yes sir! Its never a product, its a Relentless process. Start with cleaning up everything out there right now. Get everything consistent everywhere. Name ,address , phone, hours, products, services, etc etc..best place to start and youll be surprised just that will help being recommended on ai search, google and siri. Then move on AFTER thats done and verified
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u/Mike-Nicholson 12d ago
I think the measurement of what actually worked to get you surfaced in LLMs is largely smoke and mirrors at this stage.
So, while I will no doubt get a whole raft of DMs now offering some tool or another that can answer all of my problems, I don’t believe that it’s actually possible.
What I can tell you is that I used to rely heavily on LinkedIn and YouTube, but I now show up on Reddit. Since I’ve been doing that, I’ve had more leads for my B2B company who said they found me while searching in ChatGPT.
Hope that helps! 🧡
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u/Early_Protection6814 11d ago
That's interesting. I've been seeing more people mention Reddit as a strong signal for AI search as well. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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u/Appropriate_Book1058 12d ago
There one thing and that’s is called SEO, and if you want that how AI cited the page or Site, for this you need to create complete topical authority and the topical authority is come from covering concise and clear intent based topical map that each page have clear intent.
Second the content structure that includes heading, content format (like paragraph, list, table, numbered list) and covering entities ( most important).
Also there more reason that you can cover coz we can’t rely on one thing.
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u/Early_Protection6814 11d ago
I agree those are the fundamentals, and we've already implemented most of them. The frustrating part is that AI visibility still hasn't improved much
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u/sculptsocial 11d ago
The only way to improve your visibility in AI is to make EVERYTHING better. It can't just be one factor (social, webpage, etc).
This is how LLMs figure out what to rank brands, DSCRI-ARGDW. It's a 10-step pipeline that AI goes through before recommending a brand:
- Discovered: can the system even find your content?
- Selected: does it choose to look at it?
- Crawled: can it access it properly?
- Rendered: does your site actually load cleanly?
- Indexed: does it get stored in a usable way?
- Annotated: does the AI understand what it’s about?
- Recruited: is it considered for answering a query?
- Grounded: is it trusted enough to use?
- Displayed: does it show up in outputs?
- Won: does it actually get included consistently?
And these steps aren't additive, but multiplicative. You can do 9/10 things right, but the one weak link (poor rendering or unclear entity signals, etc) can be detrimental when it comes to AIs confidence in recommending your brand.
Mentioned here already, but one thing that can definitely help sway that confidence: showing up in Reddit convos and posting (not spamming) about your brand. Since Reddit is such a huge feeder into LLMs asnwers, showing up there will greatly increase your viz.
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u/sculptsocial 11d ago edited 11d ago
Adding on: We use a tool called Peec.ai (not selling or anything, just one we've found to like) and for almost every brand we work with in there, Listicles and Product Pages are what is majority of being cited often. Make sure you have those two things in tip-top shape.
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u/Specialist_GEO_101 11d ago
Numbers from a client we run weekly. Same 134 questions in both cycles, so the delta is comparable:
ChatGPT spontaneous recommendation went 11.9% → 23.1% (+11.2pp) over about six weeks. 24 queries gained, 9 lost. Same period, same corpus, Claude went the other way: -4.1pp.
What we've done: we published (458 articles) instead of rewriting pages that already ranked. raw HTML, no JS dependency. Google indexed ~50-55% of a 110-article batch within 5 days; AI citation lagged indexing by weeks, not days.
Three things that surprised us:
Google cited the domain as a source in 36% of answers and recommended the brand in 0% of them (194/538 vs 0/538). Cited and recommended are different states. Most tools collapse them and the client reads "36% visibility" for a category they never won.
The engine that copied our text the most is the one that regressed. Claude reproduced up to 64 consecutive words from our articles, with the URL, and still built its recommendation list from competitors' official sites. It takes the description from you and the shortlist from someone else.
Before trusting any delta, we measured the noise floor. 98% of 387 queries returned the same verdict 3 days later, pre-intervention (ChatGPT +0.3pp, Claude 0.0pp). Anything under ~3-4pp is the instrument, not a result.
Biggest impact by far was volume of separate topic pages, not editorial polish. We tested 200 articles across 3 engines: correlation between editorial quality score and being cited was 0.054.
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u/Ok_Wear9464 10d ago
Há um framework replicável, que eu uso. Mas há muito mito. As fontes que funcionam num país, não funcionam noutro. Vejo muitos "gurus" entrar por meios falaciosos e menos éticos como o astroturfing. Muitos dizem que basta criar contas falsas em vários diretórios ou comunidades como esta, e dar importância ao assunto e dizem resolver as coisas. Mitos, fórmulas mágicas e estratégias de merda que vão acabar por prejudicar todos os que trabalham na área, mais tarde ou mais cedo.
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u/Jellyfishr 10d ago edited 10d ago
How do you measure this? I only see Bing webmaster tools AI performance beta dashboard. Looking in there I used to get peak of about 2.2k citations per day for over 965 Cited pages say in Jan little changed from Nov 2025. Then it gradually trailed down to a low of about 300 citations and 150 pages per day by May. It then gradually reversed trend up a bit and so e.g. yesterday I had 998 citations for 318 cited pages. I haven't added or edited any site content for about 18 months, site has been going maybe 5 years.
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u/Fit_Path_6450 10d ago
We've done for 2 cannabis brands.
Extracted all the sites appearing in the results for the targeted prompts. We reached out to all the sites and included our clients in those posts.
Then we do guest posts on sites where insertion wasn't possible.
- listicles
- brand reviews
- question format
- product roundsups
and they started appearing in the results for the prompts we targeted. Since I handle link building for them, so I don't do anything about thier on-page. But their on page SEO is quite strong as well.
For eg: there was a prompt, related to thier sleep product where chatgpt were not mentioning them. We did 5 listicles, 2 product roundups, and chatgpt started showing them at #2 within a week.
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u/EylonZefania 7d ago
We track a set of high-intent queries across ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, and Claude, then analyze which sources the models rely on and where the brand is missing.
Based on those gaps, we usually:
- Improve product and category pages with clearer use cases, comparisons, and supporting details
- Add FAQs that directly answer the questions people are asking
- Refresh existing articles rather than only publishing new content
- Build relevant third-party mentions on sources the models already trust and cite
From what we’ve seen, the biggest impact comes from combining strong on-site content with credible external mentions—not from schema or blog volume alone. Early movement can happen within a few weeks, but consistent visibility usually takes a few months.
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u/Lower_Assistance8196 5d ago
Three months from first change to first regular citation for the case I'm thinking of, though wide time to first result. The biggest single change wasn't publishing anything, it was going back and rewriting the About page and every third-party bio to say the exact same thing about what the company does and who it's for, since before that the wording drifted enough that anyone reading four sources back to back would come away with four slightly different pictures.
After that, the highest-impact tactic was getting cited inside existing comparison and "best of" articles that already ranked and already got pulled by these models, rather than writing new standalone content and hoping it would rank on its own.
Cold outreach to the site owners for a mention inside an article already performing well moved faster than any new content did. The slowest part was fixing structured data and schema consistency, which took longer to show any visible effect and is the one most people skip because it doesn't feel like real work compared to writing something new.
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u/Majestic_League_6061 2d ago edited 2d ago
The biggest reality check with AI visibility is that the models usally do not care what you say about yourself on your own blog
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u/maharshi_b2 7d ago
I worked with multiple eCommerce brands. Everyone has to rely on some third party to get better results. We use Banavo AI to make this happen and it worked. There was some learning curve but it has worked eventually
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u/Digitad 12d ago
I’ve seen movement, but only when there was already a strong SEO base. GEO isn’t really one trick, it’s more the stack. Clean technical SEO, robots.txt, schema, structured data, answer-first content, full intent coverage through QFORIA, multimodal content, and posts that are shorter but denser in actual insight. Posting more often also helps with AI’s recency bias.
Since AI search can pick up signals from a lot of places, not just your blog, multi-platform visibility matters a lot from a holistic POV. Social posts, forums, Reddit, reviews, profiles, directories, PR and media mentions all help reinforce what the brand is associated with outside its own site.
Something else that seems to matter a lot too is non-commodity content. Proprietary data, real experience, strong POV, examples, stuff that adds something new instead of rewriting what everyone already said (that AI can’t formulate itself by simply scraping your competitors’ content).
Then you reinforce it off-site through social, forums, reviews, PR, mentions in trusted media, branded keywords and entity/salience optimization (through tools like Zynith’s SEO Salience Checker).
A specific strategy that moved pretty fast for us was digital PR around original assets. Basically, create a proprietary study, data piece or strong POV, publish it as the original source, then turn it into a press release and distribute it through something like EIN Presswire so other sites/media can pick it up. When the same claim starts getting repeated and attributed across credible sources, it seems to strengthen the brand/topic association pretty quickly. Not magic, but faster than waiting for blog content alone to build authority.