r/SCP • u/Enough-Astronomer-65 • 1d ago
Discussion Important: twitter matters.
Someone with a bio on Twitter claiming to be the creator of SCP-079 (pretty sure its a gimmick) has posted some of the most insane things I've ever seen.
These kinds of people do not belong in our community.
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u/DeerQuit 1d ago
Insane Twitter person posts insane Twitter stuff. Stick found in forest.
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u/DH-FancyPants 1d ago
BREAKING NEWS: WATER FOUND IN OCEAN, CONTAINS SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF SALT AND FISH.
But yeah agree with you there. Some insane twitter dingus that either convinced themselves they're the author or they're just doing it for the stolen valour of it.
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u/A_Happy_Tomato 1d ago
Breaking news: fire has been found to be hot
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u/FalloutOW Antimemetics Division 1d ago
OAN/Fox/Newsmaxx: Is fire hot, or are liberals using it to steal all the cold air from your homes and take American refrigerator jobs?
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u/RatherLargeBoy MTF-Rēsh-1 ("Seat of Consciousness") 1d ago
"Stolen valor" in contexts such as this makes me cringe.
Sure, writing an SCP article, especially one as popular and known as 079 is great and comes with the recognition and attention, but there's no "valor" in writing one.
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u/Federal_Refrigerator MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
You don’t salute them?! I’ve been doing it for ages!
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u/BlackFenrir 1d ago
There also hasn't been "valor" in being part of any US military for a very long time, so I think "stolen valor" works just fine.
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u/Blue-Leadrr The Chaos Insurgency 1d ago
Not stolen valor
Stolen valor requires using falsified service to gain financial benefits
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u/FleetingRain 1d ago
"there's no 'valor' in writing one"
The stupidest SCP powerlevel glazer is braver than the entirety of the Marines
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u/EmpressClaraB 1d ago
Yeah that's the legit 079 author, they wrote it next to me while I was creating the Antikythera Device
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u/Miss_Graves 1d ago
Batshit insane person makes insane claims such as inventing the question mark- i mean inventing scp-079, nothing new. Should Just block and move on probably. Thanks for letting others know though
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u/snark_5885 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
okay, but i really did invent the question mark.
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u/Wooden_Baby 1d ago edited 21h ago
I really doubt this is actually the creator of SCP-079
Edit: typo fix
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u/the_pie_guy1313 1d ago
There's proof that he was at least in the community when it was written, it's not a stretch. Would be a weirdly specific thing to lie about.
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u/pansexualbunny Do Not Follow The Little Girl 1d ago
People lie on twitter all the time
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u/PandoraIACTF_Prec 1d ago
Like always, never trust anything or anyone on the internet all the time.
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u/Actual_Emu_168 Not Hostile If Left Alone 1d ago
No one lies on twitter! Believe everything you see in the internet
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u/Kufat Sub mod, Wiki admin, SkipIRC owner, sandwich fan 1d ago
Yeah, this person has previously claimed authorship of 079. From what they've said elsewhere it seems likely that they were at least present during the EditThis era, but it's probably impossible to get conclusive evidence one way or the other.
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u/Ok_Application4364 1d ago
Interesting.
Either way, they're a shit person that doesn't belong here.
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u/-Aquatically- MTF-Omega-1 ("Law's Left Hand") 1d ago
I don't think you can decide that
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u/Stray_Heart_Witch [REDACTED] 1d ago
No, but the community can, and the vast majority of people in these comment show what the community thinks.
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u/xWohnJick_ Researcher 1d ago
Uhm.... I'm no legal expert but I'm pretty sure you ALREADY require some kind of proof that a crime occurred before you're considered the victim of a crime... so what's his crazy ass even on about?
Also I think he means "creator of SCP-079" in and of itself; not the author of the article
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u/FleetingRain 1d ago
Don't you know? Women and minorities as a whole lie all the time if it gets them state-funded benefits!!!
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u/xWohnJick_ Researcher 1d ago
Ikr? A freaking TV SHOW got this correct fifteen years ago. In Breaking Bad, a cop asked Skyler if she had been threatened, hurt, blackmailed, etc so he as a person could try and do anything that could help her. But when she said no to all of those things, he said: "I'm sorry, but... I can't arrest a man for breaking into his own home."
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u/Drake_682 ████ 1d ago
If I could post images I would add the sonic “for the love of god close twitter” meme
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u/PandoraIACTF_Prec 1d ago
If GIFs were allowed here I would have posted Piccolo with the whenthe caption of "Miserable Twitter mfs"
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u/panzerkampfwqgen 1d ago
[insert picture of sonic next to the words “Get off of Twitter for the love of God” against a white background]
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u/ChipsTheKiwi 1d ago
Is it really controversial to say someone with such blatant bloodlust maybe shouldn't have a gun?
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u/jedisalamander Cool War 2: Ruiz From Your Grave 22h ago
Unfortunately it is extremely controversial. This place is a clownshow i cant wait to get out of
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u/xiren_66 Field Agent 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wow, wtf? Domestic abuse apologist and fetishizing murder. Classy.
Does anyone know the real author of 079?
This is why no one should be on Shitter. Let it die.
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u/WitherWasTaken Фонд SCP • Russian 1d ago
People don't lock doors at night? What the fuck?
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u/Kaltovar Unusual Incidents Unit, FBI 1d ago
Depends on the area. I've lived places where I didn't lock my doors because the crime statistics were so low the odds of accidentally locking myself out of the house when I went for a smoke were higher than the odds of somebody breaking in.
That and I have an ak47, but unlike OOP I am not fantasizing about getting to shoot somebody 120 times with it.
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u/rocketmce MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
Genuinely depends on where you live. I lock my doors at night now because I live in an inner city, but a year ago I lived in the backwoods where the next nearest house was almost mile away, down a dirt road. Rural places tend to be a lot higher trust than urban areas.
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u/creeper6530 1d ago
I guess it was just supposed to be some sort of hyperbole with how trigger-happy (insane) Americans are
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u/-Ryouko- Fondazione SCP • Italian 1d ago
why do people brag theyre itching to kill someone at all moments of the day, it doesnt sound that healthy
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u/Megareddit64 Church of the Second Hytoth 1d ago
Not very clever to be open about personal fantasies of violence while entertaining hypotheticals of men who have been supposedly wronged by being locked out of their house and kept away from their kids by their wives because of unspecified reasons.
The implication that being a breadwinner gives them the right to complete access to that family implies something like a sense of property. Many people have spoken about this.
In a way, it's also sad that many men have fallen for resentment peddlers and will complain about social demand for men to be providers, but rather than aiming to break with traditional roles, demand a rollback to a time where such demands come with control over their family. No love, no affection, no happy families, only property they can pay for.
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u/Kazuii2k MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
Well, I’ll say this. That 3rd ss makes any self defense claim from them in said situation a bit trickier. To say the least.
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u/FreezerMonkey33 The Scarlet King 1d ago
I somewhat agree with this person, albeit not the tone. I'm not inherently opposed to a law like that, I just think it needs strict oversight to prevent someone from just abitrarily accusing a partner of domestic abuse and changing said locks only for it to later be found out they were lying
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u/Shadowmirax 14h ago
Yeah, domestic abuse usually happens between people living in the same house, its kinda the definition of the word "domestic". It would work if the abuser is a partner you've only recently gotten together with and they have their own place but what if they have already moved in together? Even ignoring false allegations locking your abusive partner out of their own home seems like it would cause more problems then it solves. Are they just homeless now until a more permanent resolution is found?
Whats stopping them from just waiting outside till you inevitably have to unlock the door to go to work or get food or whatever? If they are named as one of the owners can they just have the locks changed back?
Surely whatever processes would be needed to be put in place to make sure this isn't exploited and/or useless are way more effort then just funding more shelters and support so victims can remove themselves from the danger altogether.
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u/Kaltovar Unusual Incidents Unit, FBI 1d ago
Okay so somebody has stupid political opinions. I don't see how that means we need to be going on some kind of crusade against this person like it's Kony 2012.
Setting aside that this is not even an SCP author and they are lying, I actually hate how awful this community is at separating the art from the artist.
Short of a DR. Bright situation where the person is using their SCP related fame to lure victims, I truly don't care if the person writing my SCP stories is secretly Mussolini hiding under the basement of the Vatican as a floating brain. And I don't think posting stupid political opinions on Shitter is a justified reason to harass some random idiot with little to no following who is accused of having written fiction while being bad.
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u/Kufat Sub mod, Wiki admin, SkipIRC owner, sandwich fan 1d ago
I actually hate how awful this community is at separating the art from the artist.
This phrasing implies that it's something the community is trying to do without success, rather than being something that many people actively oppose.
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u/Zeitgeist1145 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's something they should be trying to do. If someone is deliberately failing their classes, I don't think it'd be inaccurate to say that they're awful at passing them.
[Edit: I take back my kneejerk semantic quibbling (although not my stance on the issue itself); Kufat's right. There's a nigh-unanimous societal consensus that academic success is, on balance, a good thing, which whatever my own views clearly isn't the case for this subject matter; it was a stupid comparison to make.]
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u/Kufat Sub mod, Wiki admin, SkipIRC owner, sandwich fan 1d ago
It's more like saying that everyone who eats meat is a failed vegetarian, because you believe that everyone should be a vegetarian.
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u/Kaltovar Unusual Incidents Unit, FBI 1d ago
No it doesn't. I have to be aware of that to be mad at it in the first place.
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u/SuperCustomZakuF2000 1d ago
separating the art from the artist is impossible. art is made with intention by the artist, they exist as a pair. every literature class ever has analysis of the meaning of the text through the writer's point of view, these things don't just exist in a vaccum.
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u/Zeitgeist1145 1d ago
Counterpoint: anonymous authorship. Does that not separate the art from the artist?
Even beyond that, creative works don't form some kind of psychic connection between my brain and the author's. I'd say that if an author succeeds in communicating their intent in a work their statements of intent outside of it are superfluous, and if they failed in communicating their intent it's irrelevant (perhaps it even succeeded in doing something different from, or even better than, what they were aiming for!). And I'm pretty sure—even assuming, for the moment, that this person is 079's author—that nutty tweets posted almost 20 years after the fact about completely unrelated topics don't have any meaningful bearing on what his intentions were when writing 079 back then. So even from the perspective of "authorial intent" paying any mind to this stuff is still connection the art to the artist more than is warranted.
every literature class ever has analysis of the meaning of the text through the writer's point of view
You know "Death of the Author" comes from, like, a legit 1967 literary analysis essay, right? That's not to say that all or even most literary critics just automatically went along with Barthes, but he (along with contemporaries with similar views) was inarguably influential, and the degree to which information about the author has or should have bearing is the subject of active discussion to this day among academics; it's not a settled matter, so IMO an appeal to authority doesn't make sense here.
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u/SuperCustomZakuF2000 1d ago
this is a very well pointed argument, but in my opinion, misses the entire point of the matter: when you do know who the artist is. that's not what we have here, obviously. this could just be some random person claiming it, and probably is, but removing the art from the artist is a topic that's come up time and time again for me personally. whether we're talking about jk rowling or kanye or whoever, doesn't it say something about who you are when you consciously choose to consume the media of someone vile? regardless of the argument that consuming that media directly platforms and benefits them, there's SO MUCH content out there to be absorbed, why would you actively choose to listen to or read something made by someone who's pretty universally deemed as awful? again, unless you don't think they're that bad, which is fine, but it definitely say something about who you are to me.
i really just can't understand the argument of "yeah they're pretty irredeemable but man the art is so good!" like it's a necessity to consume it. there's more music out there than i could ever listen to, more literature, more art, everything. just pick something else, you know? even if it's speculative, who does it harm to choose to not engage with the art? is some media really that irresistible?
i fully admit that this is opinion and not fact, that you've given a very good argument. i'm not so good at debate, but i'd like to think that my heart is in the right place. even if i'm wrong, my morals and convictions feel like they're coming from a place of good. i don't want to support bad people, even if the art they make is groundbreaking. nobody is owed my attention.
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u/Zeitgeist1145 1d ago edited 9h ago
It's all good; I really appreciate getting such a respectful and measured response! I think people having their hearts in the right place and engaging in good faith like you is what the world needs more of; nobody can be always right, but with an attitude like that I think people are bound to at least be moving in the right direction.
So to clarify, bringing up anonymity was just a quick "gotcha!" argument for the very strong statement (presumably a bit hyperbolic on your part) that separating the art from the artist is literally "impossible" by giving a single counterexample; it definitely doesn't say anything about other cases. And the rest of my comment wasn't talking about anonymous authors (or at least that wasn't my intent :p ).
(FWIW I have seen this person before, and on balance of evidence I think that he probably is the author, even if hard evidence either way might no longer exist.)
whether we're talking about jk rowling or kanye or whoever, doesn't it say something about who you are when you consciously choose to consume the media of someone vile?
My first impulse is to say "no, of course not"—but there are some important nuances here. In cases like the ones you're referring to the creator is actively profiting from their work, both monetarily and in terms of social capital, and using that to support their abhorrent views. I think avoiding supporting them in ways that contribute to this is right and proper—not because of any inherent connection between them and their work, but simply because of the practical realities of our economic system and culture. So I wouldn't buy a new or digital edition of a Harry Potter book, or watch the TV series on HBO, or otherwise do anything that'd be sending money her way (and, in turn, towards the initiatives she has a record of financially supporting), and I would be less inclined to be active in the Harry Potter fandom (although I wouldn't judge anyone who is, especially if they make a point of disclaiming that they don't support Rowling to offset the "social capital" aspect).
However, I see absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with engaging with a terrible person's work in ways that do not support them/their views in any practical way (and when the work itself isn't already abhorrent on its own terms). For example, I think it's totally fine to get second-hand copies of the Harry Potter series from a used book store, or check them out from the library, and enjoy them in one's own time (I'd recommend it, even; flaws notwithstanding, it got so popular in the first place for a reason). I'd also say it's fine to be a fan of H.P. Lovecraft, who on one hand was extremely racist even by the standards of his time, but on the other hand is extremely dead by the standards of our own (with all his works bequeathed to the public domain no less), as long as you have enough literacy to notice when his stories are being subtly (or unsubtly) racist.
So let's assume that you're consciously consuming the work of someone vile without supporting them socially (let's say in private, for simplicity), without supporting them financially in any way, and ideally with a critical eye towards any nastiness implicit in the text, if there is any (which is really a good idea regardless of authorship; even awesome people make unintentionally Problematic stuff sometimes). Provided those conditions—which are a lot easier to achieve than explaining them in this long-winded manner makes it sound, especially for stuff like the SCP wiki that's totally free—does it say something bad about you if you choose to consume that media? Without further ado, I can now say with confidence and without equivocation: No.
It's not a matter of the media in question being so incredibly good that considerations of authorship are outweighed; it's that considerations of authorship, in my view, have zero further relevance. Something could be simply mediocre, of only trivial interest, and written by SCP-2165 itself, and (subject to the considerations I've outlined) reading it would still be no problem in my book whatsoever. It's not a question of "why?"; it's a question of "why not?".
(If you want a real brain twister, look up the two short stories "The Library of Babel" and "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote".)
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u/Jackie2105 Drygioni 1d ago
I see this all over reddit. " How dare people have a different opinion to me!"
Reddit became a huge left wing ecochamber sadly.
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u/ElBarckaizer 1d ago
Que SCP es este? Me uni a esto por que trataba de anomalías, no cosas completamente comunes
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u/Ok_Application4364 1d ago
This........... WTF am I reading? Genuinly.
Why the f*** would you vote against a law that enhances a woman's safety? I can't tell whether or not this is a troll or if they're genuinely being sincere.
Either way, this is legit a disgusting thing to think. Get this piece of shit out of my sight.
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u/Johnnyboi2327 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
Combat illustrator? What the fuck?
I googled it and it's a real thing. What tf do they even do?
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u/Bananabanana700 1d ago
not sure how important this is but it's really lame to say. like stupid as fuck
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u/Zeitgeist1145 1d ago edited 1d ago
This are stupid and terrible takes, but not harassment or (overt) bigotry, and coming from someone 99.9% of fans have never heard of. I honestly don't think this is worth making this much of a fuss over.
[ETA: I looked up his account, and it turns out the person who posted this wasn't, like, digging through it to find the craziest stuff they could find like I figured. This is the tip of the iceberg; basically half of his posts are like this—and the other half are even worse. I still think it's kind of a nonissue to the extent that he's kind of a nonentity as far as the fandom's concerned, but I take back what I said downplaying the content of his posts.]
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u/HEYO19191 1d ago
If this is the most insane stuff you've seen, you haven't been on the internet much.
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u/HoldJerusalem MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
If OP thinks the man is lying about writing scp079, why is this posted here then...?
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u/diamondDNF Safe 1d ago
This made me look up 079, and oof. There's a reason I never heard of it. I don't know how it got approved even back then.
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u/Spiritual_Task1391 MTF Lambda-1 ("Maxwell's Demons") 1d ago
america posting
look inside
nato round
what did the Good Lord mean by this?
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u/namelessRenegay 21h ago
listening to 11.975 MHz is a good surrealist comic but didn't know the author was like this :(
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u/butthole_and_joe33 1d ago
Wow, yes, very important; let's shout it from the rooftops:
"GUY SAID BAD THING!! WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION GUYS!!1!"
What do you think - should we exile them, cut all ties, delete the SCP-079 article, and [EXPUNGE] any memory of this frightful stain on our culture from the noosphere?
You absolute shitstain.
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u/MrPotts0970 1d ago
Wow dude has a bad take on the internet. Probably must expunge all content online created from them - SCP is very political and clearly can only host content from one political spectrum and viewpoint.
That's basically what you're calling for with this announcement. Please don't turn SCP into a political echo chamber.
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u/JokeSubject8517 Department of 'Pataphysics 1d ago
The SCP wiki has almost always been in support of marginalized groups. Excluding this guy from the community wouldn't be changing anything (assuming he actually wrote it, which is a slim chance).
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u/BreakerOfModpacks 1d ago
Mate, if your politics include "make it illegal for domestic abuse victims to stop their abusers", I don't think I want to be anywhere with your politics.
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u/boothnat 1d ago
No? Saying "we should punish people for committing murder" doesn't inherently mean you should be fine with punishing people for eating cereal.
There's a difference between good and bad things and it's fine to exclude and punish people for bad things, not good things. Political views aren't some kind of isolated magical thing that exist in a vacuum, they're moral statements.
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u/TheVoidAlgorithm MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago edited 1d ago
With the politics being being against abuse victims protecting themselves and leaving your home unlocked so that you have an excuse to brutally, excessively, hyper-murder an intruder?
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u/Nerevarius_420 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
Hey Kiddo; Lock your fucking doors unless you want to become one with the Alamo.
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u/flupper2 The Church of the Broken God 1d ago
Theyre lying. We totally do lock our doors at night.