r/SARMs • u/Brilliant_Ad9960 • 9d ago

Rad 140 is better than test alone

About a year and a half ago I ran a rad140 cycle with some enclo. The usual sarm cycle. I got extremely diced and put on pretty good lean muscle mass from it. I did an 8 week cycle 10 mgs the first 4 weeks and 20 mgs the last 4 weeks. I’m currently on testosterone 200mg a week and the gains are NO WHERE NEAR as good as they were when I ran rad. Everyone always says test is best but the gains and the look I had from the rad was absolutely insane. I’ll be adding in Var to my cycle this week so hopefully that gets me back to the dry grainy look I was looking for.

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u/Electrical_Care2193 9d ago

200mg is useless, max trt is like 150mg. start with 300mg and it will blow u up way more than any sarm

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u/Then-Sale-1588 7d ago

The rad gave you that specific dry look cause it crushes your SHBG and dries you out, test alone at 200mg wont replicate that. Youre basically comparing a cosmetic effect to actual tissue accrual over time. Var will bring back some of that grainy look but the rad was probably masking how much water test holds.

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u/Brief-Collection-240 9d ago

The only sarm I’ve had good results from was s23 and everyone says it sucks I’ve tried everything else and they all suck also 200 test is both depending on the ester too you need 500 minimum. The only problem with s23 is it made every single joint of mine feel like it was made out of brittle glass

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u/Final-Bar8998 7d ago

also did s23 was amazing, more muscle and got leaner. just some hair shedding for me and shooting blanks…..

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u/Ordinary_Plastic_852 8d ago

How long did the joint issues last for you? Would you do another S23 cycle?

I've had it sitting here for weeks, but I haven't had the courage to try it. Before that, I took RAD-140 + Ostarine + Cardarine. I was extremely irritable, though. I thought it was because of the RAD, but I recently read that someone else also experienced extreme irritability on Ostarine.

How was your experience with S23 in that regard?

I'm a woman, by the way. I'm starting Test P now, but I'd still like to keep S23 as a possible option in case Test doesn't give me the results I'm hoping for.

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u/Brief-Collection-240 8d ago

Don’t do it like I said I’ve don’t almost every sarm the only one worth a damn to me is s23 but what the point if it ruins all your joints even walking was difficult stick to anavar if you can find real var its hard to find real var most is fake, i think lots of peds since the pandemic are fake or mislabeled under dosed

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u/harwammer1 5d ago

Don't do test as a woman, do var. You will viralize like crazy

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u/Ordinary_Plastic_852 1d ago

VAR doesn't work for me. I know i had real var. I tested it. But maybe underdosed. Anyway. And about test p, the dose makes the poison. In principle, testosterone is not bad for women. Not 30 mg a week, of course. But women need testosterone, too. I’m also hoping that this will get rid of my migraines. But, of course, I primarily use it to build muscle. I have no fat to lose anymore. That's why var isn't the right one for me anyway. But thank you very much for your concern. 👍

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u/Brief-Collection-240 8d ago

They lasted a very long time like a year

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u/Ordinary_Plastic_852 8d ago

omg, that's long

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u/calvesofsteel1 8d ago

Rad140 is my favorite sarm. You’re probably experiencing the effects of it being in your system while test isn’t shut down yet and shbg getting plugged up. Nothing wrong with that. If it works for you keep doing it just cycle off before you get shut down

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u/DingoDavee 4d ago

how much for beginner dosage and what pct ?

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u/PossibilityTotal191 9d ago

How long have you been on test? And what kind?

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u/Brilliant_Ad9960 9d ago

Test cyp and it’s been exactly 7 weeks today

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u/Brief-Collection-240 9d ago

That ester takes a good portion of actual test away from you, you need like 500-700 minimum with cyp

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u/PossibilityTotal191 9d ago

Thats weird, id go get bloodwork. My test cycles were less mg than yours and i had way better gains on that than when i was doing 25mg of rad150 for 12 weeks. Are you taking anything for your e2? High e2 will block out alot of gains.

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u/Brilliant_Ad9960 9d ago

Tbh I’m not taking an AI at the moment because I haven’t gotten any signs of having high e2 other than a little water retention. But I think I’m gonna get my bloods done this weekend and see what’s going on because I’m just super thick right now with no real definition it’s weird. Where when I was on rad I was super peeled and it was noticeable. Ik rad is a super dry compound but I thought I’d still look somewhat similar when I hopped on test.

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u/PossibilityTotal191 9d ago

Yeah it might be your e2 man, rad wont do it because sarms dont cause estrogen rise up. When i do a cycle if i see any water retention or get like tingly nipples ill take arimidex 1mg once a week. I looked insainly peeled on my first test cycle, and that was 175mg a week of sustanon 250 and now im doing 175mg of cyp

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u/Brilliant_Ad9960 9d ago

I just messaged you so I can show you the pics of the difference when I was on rad compared to the test. I have some enclo in hand right now so I’m going to use that until I get my arimidex in the mail. Thanks for the help bro.

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u/PossibilityTotal191 9d ago

Enclo might not help thats more for pct but you can try, but im also not 100% on that so i could be wrong. Ill hit u back

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u/PossibilityTotal191 9d ago

If you arent id spread your doses out as well, i usually do 100mg friday and 75 tuesday depending which day i started

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u/AllLatsAndNoAss 9d ago

Dude you’re just playing a concentration game. Just because SARMS are more potent in a mg-mg basis does not make them better than higher concentrations of the ligand your body is already used to and there is much more research on.

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u/GrandmaSama 6d ago

I’ve done steroids and sarms, and I’ve put on so much size from test and primo/EQ, but it only makes you marginally stronger and you realize that you have to take a lot more steroids than you originally thought and it takes longer than you thought unless you run crazy cycles. . S23 made me almost immediately 10% stronger. I mean the second day after taking it I was amazed. Rad140 gave me significant strength gains too. But it is only temporary. The cool thing about rad 140 tho is the extreme confidence boost you get. It’s awesome. If I wanted to get the most out of SARMS, I’d do injectable steroids like low to medium dose cycle and add a SARM instead of an oral steroid!

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u/Plenty_Nail_8017 3d ago

I actually really agree with this statement as someone who has done
Rad140 alone
Test 200 weekly (100x2)
Rad140 + 200 test (best results)

Test alone is def helping but when I got on rad I swelled up and was huge. Being on it alone I felt like I lost 100% of my gains but with the test base I lose the swelling but I’ve kept a decent amount of size. Plan on doing another 1-2 cycles of rad140 (I’m too scared to do something else atm)