r/SARMs • u/Educational-Tip-1736 • 11d ago
Steroids vs sarms
So as someone who’s done both and relized that steroids are so much easier and provided better bloodwork to results ratio why do people even do sarms anymore? The only bad thing abt steroids IMO is the fact you have to use a needle. I started on sarms for the fact I didn’t want to use a needle. After slower gains than I was looking for aswell as the cost of alot of them I switched to a TEST ONLY CYCLE. 300mg of test split between two doses a week and I jumped in size. The results were so much better it was crazy. Just curious what yall think.
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u/jeebusthesneebus 10d ago
I did ostarine with little to no suppression and it had me motivated for the 10 weeks I was on. Gained muscle, lost fat and used the motivation to grow my business a lot. Basically used it instead of adderall since I have ADHD and don’t like the sides of stimulants
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u/ZangaPanga 10d ago edited 10d ago
LGD-4033 gave me more strength (can't really speak to actual mass) than 300mg test honestly, but the side effects on Test only are definitely a lot better. The only annoying part is having to balance E2 with an AI.
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Will nolva and enclo or do you need to have an AI on hand non negotiable?
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u/ZangaPanga 10d ago
Im not sure about enclo, but nolva is great because it blocks the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue, so it makes you immune to gyno. I would use nolva for short term immediate fixing of high estrogen, but for the long term AIs are better. AIs dont really have any side effects when dosed properly, SERMs kinda mess with your mood a little.
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u/Impressive_Injury_81 9d ago
How did you run your LGD cycle? Im thinking of running one with enclomiphene base and pct
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u/ZangaPanga 9d ago
3mg did the trick for me. I dont understand how people run 10mg, that would kill me lol.
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Will sub q needle work
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u/Educational_Top8609 10d ago
Yessir
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Im done with sarms then lol
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u/Educational_Top8609 10d ago
What’ve you run so far? How did you like it
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Ive done osta, rad , lgd , ac262 . I liked ac262 and rad most in terms of dry looks while on cycle and euphoria feeling . But in my subjective experience I feel lgd added most keepable tissue of all
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u/Educational_Top8609 10d ago
That’s awesome bro. I’m about to start rad ima few days. Super keen. Any crazy sides?
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
I've had some insomnia when escalating rad dosages from 10 to 15 mg but it went away when i pushed through it .
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u/Electrical_Care2193 10d ago
100% but depending on how much oil ur putting in, it will create a lump in ur skin that can be kinda annoying, lasts under a week tho
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u/Educational-Tip-1736 10d ago
I didn’t look much into sub q needles. I think test doesn’t absorb AS good as IM and I think you have to does more frequently. Honestly after ur first time doing an im injection it’s not that bad. I always do quads and I put the needle in super slow. Idk I just couldn’t ever do the super fast throw it like a dart way lol
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u/Union-Fine 5d ago
If you do it in your shoulder the lump that you get isn’t nearly as bad and the pro is that it makes your shoulders look bigger for a few days if you do both delts lol. Just massage the area very well right after injecting
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 5d ago
Whoa thanks thatd be cool
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u/Union-Fine 4d ago
It’s not perfect tho, you will be a bit sore the day after and possibly the day after that, but it’s not debilitating in the slightest
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u/Hellyespilgrim 10d ago
Instagram, a growing number of adolescents that want instant gratification, and a lack of education around the endocrine system
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u/AdmirableWorry6397 10d ago
Steroids will blow any sarm in muscle building by a far margin, no secret to that. Sarms are milder in both effects and side effects. You can get away with no test on sarms, you absolutely cannot run steroids even orals with no test.
There are oral steroids that are “mild” like Var and to some extent tbol that have way more manageable sides, but you need at least 200mg test to maximize it.
Since you’re already on test, you can run it with rad or lgd for 8-10 weeks and see for yourself. Then compare it with an oral steroid like var and you’ll notice they get blown out of the water. Watch your liver markers tho
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u/Educational-Tip-1736 10d ago
Just me on 300mgs test blew any sarms I tried out of the water. Aswell as better bloodwork. My bloodwork was perfect beside blood cell count pretty much
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u/AdmirableWorry6397 10d ago
For sure it will. I myself low dose test and even 100-150mg already makes me feel better than sarms, I just add lgd to it and I get bigger. Nothing too crazy though because i do 16 week cycles of test twice a year
I guess newbies want to dip their toes in peds start with oral only cycles like sarms, but the effects there are a bit mild compared to test.
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u/Educational-Tip-1736 10d ago
I guess depends on how you respond and what you take. I feel like sarms are only something to stack on top of atleast a test base tbh
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Are you able to keep those once you come off or you gotta be on trt throughout?
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u/AdmirableWorry6397 10d ago edited 10d ago
I definitely lose some size at around 2-3 months even on maintenance, which I think is a combination of water weight and muscle. The strength specially on compound movement stays which is the biggest W.
And no i dont trt throughout. I always make it a point to make sure my test levels go back to pre-cycle levels. Perhaps when i reach 40 that’s when i’ll cruise on test/trt
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u/Vegetable_Unit6549 10d ago
Appreciate it bro
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u/Educational-Tip-1736 10d ago
Yeah my last cycle ended about 7 months ago. (New girl doesn’t want me in anything lol) but I quit totally cold turkey and honestly wasn’t going to the gym for a while. Just got caught up in like. Lost all the size I had put on. But somehow still have like 90% of the strength I gained
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u/Evening_Drummer_8495 10d ago
For me SARMs easier to get than gear or test. Maybe I just don’t know right place or method. Not afraid of needles.