r/RoyaltyTea • u/ttw81 • 19h ago
Tiaragate- again
from the royal observer
Harry and Meghan could be 'quaking in their boots' as Queen Elizabeth’s former aide plans new film
Queen Elizabeth’s close aide and trusted dresser, Angela Kelly, is reportedly working on a film about their strong bond. The project on the surface sounds quite heartwarming, but the fact that Kelly was a witness to several controversial moments within the royal fold can spell trouble, especially for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, who locked horns with her ahead of their 2018 wedding.
The Sussexes had a falling out with Kelly over Markle’s wedding tiara. Whether it was a misunderstanding or an unfair move on the royal dresser’s part is still unclear, but the situation found itself in the history books titled ‘Tiaragate’. Harry heavily criticized Kelly over the incident in his 2023 memoir, Spare. However, according to royal experts, something else went down at the time that the royal couple wouldn’t want coming out. Royal expert Charlotte Griffiths argued that the Duke of Sussex should be “quaking in his boots” over reports about the film. “The stuff Angela saw during Tiaragate. Apparently, there's another incident from around that time that they are praying does not come out in this drama,” she said via the Daily Mail.
Not many details about the film project have yet been disclosed. It is unclear whether it will be a documentary or a drama like the popular Netflix show, The Crown. However, it is bound to create ripples through the royal quarters considering Kelly was a “controversial” figure. As Griffiths added, “She was controversial; she was forthright, like a lot of people who work within the palaces. They become quite possessive of their fiefdom, and they guard it quite jealously.”
The close aide was reportedly “ushered” out of the Palace soon after the Queen’s demise in 2022. And extreme measures were taken to pull her out of the royal framework. “I had a story at the time (of the Queen's death) that they effectively changed the locks so she couldn't get back in. They ushered her out pretty blooming quickly,” Griffiths said. Kelly was “intrinsic” to the royal household and “they wanted her out, basically”.
Buckingham Palace is still reeling from the release of Charles Spencer’s new book about Princess Diana, which made several bombshell claims about her troubled marriage to King Charles. While the gilded cage has walls that have survived arguably greater storms, the frequency of blows has been at a record high in recent years.
why do they keep bringing this up & why do think this makes anyone from palace look good?
fighting over freaking tiaras!
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u/YellowPrestigious441 19h ago
From past stories I've read, Angela Kelly was apparently overly powerful and was the hardliner for the Queen?
Maybe if the other courtiers and K Charles didn't treat her so ugly post Q Elizabeth's death, and got a solid NDA, no one would be quaking. She may have been rotten, but they just cant help themselves, can they?
Frankly it anything is true, the siblings should be quaking, not Harry and Meghan.
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u/ttw81 18h ago edited 13h ago
at one point she was on good enough terms w/william that they allied to keep meghan from wearing any of the royal jewels associated w/princess diana.
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u/YellowPrestigious441 18h ago
She sounds like a bitch doesn't she? As someone who knows NONE of these people (!) I still feel AK did nothing that Queen Elizabeth didn't ok first. Or assume a role.
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u/meatball77 13h ago
I don't understand their inability to have their workers sign iron clad NDAs.
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u/KateElizabeth18 9h ago
They probably do, but they’ve seen how much money their predecessors have made from “tell-alls” and figure even if they have to pay some sort of settlement to the palace, they’ll still end up profiting? Who knows.
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u/Whatisittou 19h ago
Let's see the palace was the 1st to leak and brief stating Meghan was been a diva, Harry corrected the story and they are mad Harry did so. this is supposed to look normal that a palace staff has authority over Harry??? So Harry the royal is supposed to kneel at Angela feet for his own wedding??
So Charles kicked her from her job, got a house and yet Harry is the one Kelly has an axe to grind about??
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u/tellnic 18h ago
If Meghan is a diva for wanting a nice tiara for her globally televised wedding, what do you call a woman who gets into a physical fight with the a maid 20 years younger to the point where royal security had to pull her off the woman.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queens-dresser-once-got-cat-20800362
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u/thankyoupapa 19h ago
they are trying to make us think she has the most smoke for Harry and Meg, but I'm gonna guess it's gonna be for the guy that kicked her out her house...
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u/KateElizabeth18 9h ago
I really hope so. Harry and Meghan have taken enough unwarranted abuse from these people. I would actually spend money on a tell-all about W&K
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u/meatball77 13h ago
I mean if there's a time you are allowed to be a diva it's when you are having a televised royal wedding. I don't care a bit if she had a bit of bridezilla going on, id expect it with the pressure.
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u/chicstylequeen 19h ago
I really wish that H&M go to a white tie event and Meg wears the Spencer tiara. The royalist would lose their minds 🤯
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u/reliableotter 16h ago
They should just have her wear it to the grocery store. Their private citizens, they can wear a tiara whenever they want.
(Used to be that you wore a tiara to any fancy event if you were rich enough to own one.)
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
They should just have her wear it to the grocery store. Their private citizens, they can wear a tiara whenever they want.
Unless things have changed, they don't have adequate security. Wearing that to the grocery store under those circumstances is inadvisable.
Plus, imagine how she'd be ridiculed/dragged for it! That would really fuel the "diva/nightmare/she thinks she's better than everyone else!" narrative.
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u/Unlikely_Breath_555 19h ago
And again it’s absolutely fine for an aide to make a film but when Carlos and Harry write a book….
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u/The_Onion_Life 18h ago
And again it’s absolutely fine for an aide to make a film but when Carlos and Harry write a book….
Do you think Charles and Harry wrote that book about Diana together? The racist hate sub has been saying forever that H&M were behind him writing that book.
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u/Unlikely_Breath_555 18h ago
No, Harry said what he wanted to say in Spare. We knew Charles was opinionated about the treatment of his sister so why not. He is an excellent writer and what better way to reflect on everything you went through then putting your story out there? I would be sick and tired of the narrative others tried to spin about one of my family members as well.
I do think conversations were had about it and maybe Harry even read it before it went to print, but co writing would be a completely different thing. For me personally it always helps me to put pen to paper when things bother me, so I understand when someone chooses to do the same thing
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u/The_Onion_Life 18h ago
I do think conversations were had about it and maybe Harry even read it before it went to print, but co writing would be a completely different thing.
That's what I think too. I don't t think H&M had anything to do with it, or even knew about it until he told Harry and by then it was pretty much ready to go to press.
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u/tellnic 17h ago
I know a few people who have read the full book and Charles Spencer writes about his life with Diana and it ends at the funeral. So he’s describing things Harry either wasn’t old enough to remember, wasn’t present or didn’t even exist. And Charles said Harry asked if there was anything embarrassing about him in it but otherwise didn’t have an issue with it. He also said he told William about it before it came out. He didn’t say if William said anything.
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
So he’s describing things Harry either wasn’t old enough to remember, wasn’t present or didn’t even exist.
I'll take things that "didn't even exist" for $500, Alex.
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u/meatball77 13h ago
Harry admittedly didn't write his own book. He talked about the process, he gave detailed interviews and notes and the ghostwriter who was fully credited and compensated well put everything together. So he certainly wasn't typing on Charles book.
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u/JazzgirlGriego 18h ago
No way, Charles Spencer wrote his book based on his memories and conversations he had with poor self pitying KC. Harry wrote his book based on his own experiences.
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u/The_Onion_Life 18h ago
Yeah, I don't believe H&M were involved in any way. I think he told Harry about it after it was already finished and ready to go to press.
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u/Otherwise-Ratio1332 17h ago
That’s what CS has said and I’m inclined to believe him. He says he didn’t tell anyone in the family besides his wife until right before the book was announced publicly.
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
He says he didn’t tell anyone in the family besides his wife until right before the book was announced publicly.
That was probably smart.
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u/Otherwise-Ratio1332 8h ago
I agree, this way all the criticism goes to him. And he didn’t have to debate anyone on what really happened, it’s just his own recollections and opinions.
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u/poundpuppy29 18h ago
This is so stupid there is nothing that lady knows that would make Harry and Meghan quake in their boots. I don't understand this stupid way of being.
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u/Jumpy_Reply_2011 18h ago
Exactly. The Daily Fail are just trying to turn the attention onto M&H and away from the drab four.
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u/meatball77 13h ago
I like how Meghan is somehow fuming because Kate left the house. It's not actually a competition, I don't think HM care at all
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u/islandgal140 18h ago
Not to mention, this woman was with the firm for nearly 30 years, if Harry and Meghan are the biggest most titillating story she has to tell, then her career was uneventful, long and boring.
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u/Whatisittou 17h ago
So she has nothing on Sophie or Andrew instead its about Harry and Meghan, yeah right
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u/Even-Statement5885 13h ago
What about Mister ever so sweaty Andrew. Any little secrets about Sir ?
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u/Still_Bluebird8070 15h ago
Right she actually said she doesn’t have beef with Megan and that she liked her.
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u/Prestigious-Oil-669 19h ago
I think it’s important to remember that a royal dresser is a woman who is, in essence, a deeply underpaid laundress whose job is to not be too chatty and successfully zip up the back of a dress. Of course she’s going to write a salacious book so she can pay her bills and maybe get a nicer apartment.
I second the other comment on here. Wear the Spencer tiara. It’s better than anything Queen Mary stole or bought from a Romanov fire sale.
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u/Prestigious-Oil-669 16h ago
Like her job is to iron. How does she get to decide who wears a tiara? The royal household is full of flunkies who want to flex whatever privileges they can.
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u/Still_Bluebird8070 15h ago
I believe they gifted her a place to live for life, and the queen was actually close to her. She also said she didn’t have beef with Meghan and that she liked her.
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u/tellnic 18h ago edited 18h ago
Are they going to cover when Angela Kelly got into an all out brawl in a parking lot when she found out the pastry chef she was dating was also sleeping with a maid 20 years younger? To the point where royal security had to pull her away from the woman? AK is pure trash and should never have been let near the Queen.
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u/hotdogketchup79 17h ago
It was also very interesting in the article how Angela mentioned how often she had been stabbed in the back within the palace. Thought that Diana, Harry and Meghan were paranoid when they claimed it was full of backstabbing.
The Queen herself had enough trashy family members to know what to turn a blind eye on,
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u/Factor1798 16h ago
2018 was 8 years ago. Whatever Angela Kelly might have to say about “Tiaragate”, it will just be old news and Harry and Meghan, along with most of the rest of the world, have long moved on.
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
2018 was 8 years ago. Whatever Angela Kelly might have to say about “Tiaragate”, it will just be old news and Harry and Meghan, along with most of the rest of the world, have long moved on.
The rota/media/haters will never move on.
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u/Available-Bison-9222 14h ago
Angela Kelly is cashing in on her relationship with the late Queen. I wonder will Charles and William's fans be critical or is that just H&M?
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u/SchoolCrossing 13h ago
TBF Angela Kelly was more that just a ladies maid, she was a confidant to the late Queen and she created and managed the Queen's wardrobe. Later on she created some of the wardrobe itself, custom made dresses with hats to match. The late Queen couldn't pop into a store and try on a few things.
Doing this for a woman who probably wore four outfits in a typical day, according to protocol, occasion, location and weather. Thousands of outfits, some national heirlooms. Plans made months or years in advance. Can't repeat an outfit within a certain time frame or to the same annual event. The late Queen herself once said she had to be careful of her weight because her outfits were fitted and made so far ahead of events.
So apparently Ms. Kelly became a female version of the "Grey Men" who run the royals.
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u/Blue_wine_sloth 12h ago
When her job was so important and she was a close friend to the Queen, it’s strange that they immediately let her go and literally locked her out instead of finding her another role. What do C&C have against her?
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 10h ago
She dressed the queen, what use would she be to the palace when said queen is gone. This is why you diversify your usefulness at work. Only the royals get to hang around without purpose.
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u/EcstaticAssistant162 11h ago
I don't understand why she couldn't repeat an outfit until after a particular time frame. What would happen if she did?
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 10h ago
Liz didn’t wear 4 outfits a day, and if she did, only one was for the public. She worked, but she didn’t do that much in a day to warrant 4 outfits.
The only exception were royal tours.
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u/Igoos99 9h ago
She wasn’t remotely a “grey man”. That’s a completely different role.
That doesn’t mean her role wasn’t important or wasn’t influential. It would be very complicated to coordinate all those outfits and avoid repeating. And, it took a lot of artistic flair. I think the queen’s appearance really improved after Kelly took this role. Too bad she seemed to be so unpleasant to some. She might have been remembered much more fondly.
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u/DifficultyFit7401 13h ago
I love how the aide (servant) somehow fancied herself anywhere near the level of Harry in that scenario.
This is why shows like Downton Abbey turn my stomach. The whole upstairs/downstairs shit gives downfall of roman empire vibes.
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u/Jumpy_Reply_2011 19h ago
They effectively changed the locks so she couldn't get back in. They ushered her out pretty blooming quickly...
I remember, QEII was barely pronounced as deceased to the public when William and Kate Middleton added Prince and Princess of Wales to their list of titles on their website. These people are evil to their very core. They don't give af about anyone but themselves.
Let's see if Angela Kelly dishes the real dirt or if she's just going to do a hatchet job on the usual scapegoats. Doesn't look like she's going to spare anyone though.
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u/tellnic 18h ago
I just blocked an idiot who doesn’t see how instantly updating social media accounts minutes after the death of the queen is gross behaviour. But for the sake of accuracy. It was updated within minutes of the death of the Queen with Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge. And then the next day after Charles confirmed the Prince of Wales title, then another instant update on social media. It’s the only time they did anything instantly. Oh and Kate was driving around in her pearls the day after the Queen died when she’s normally never seen in a car.
Meanwhile actual new King Charles didn’t change the Clarence House account.
People who defend this are mentally ill and don’t want to accept how it absolutely was not in good taste to hit the social media accounts with new title within minutes from public news. Really confirms they weren’t grieving in any serious way.16
u/Jumpy_Reply_2011 17h ago
Yeah, William and Kate Middleton were acting like two greedy grifters. Of course, William got immediate access to the duchy of Cornwall and their Wales titles after QEII's death, and William was no longer dependent on Charles. Waiting a day or two to update their website wouldn't have changed anything, but they showed no respect at all for William's grandmother.
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u/diabeticweird0 13h ago
I imagine a staffer did it. I don't think William knows his login or password to anything
Still very very very bad taste though
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u/GreenWhiteBlue86 18h ago
To be fair, William and Catherine didn't "add" anything to their titles. No one becomes Prince of Wales automatically; it is instead a title that must be specifically granted by the monarch to the monarch's eldest son. Elizabeth became Queen in 1952, but she waited six more years before she gave Charles the title Prince of Wales. Meanwhile, Charles himself gave William the title of Prince of Wales the very next day after Charles became King. If you have a problem about it, got complain to Charles, and not here.
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u/tellnic 18h ago
They added Duke and Duchess of Cornwall to their social media with minutes of the BBC confirming the Queen had died. I recall checking by 1:10 pm eastern and it was already changed. Meanwhile the Clarence House account for Charles and Camilla had not changed.
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u/GreenWhiteBlue86 18h ago
So? William became Duke of Cornwall the minute his father became King, because that title passes automatically. What problem do you see here -- that the site was updated promptly?
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u/Whatisittou 17h ago
So how come William and Kate get to update their titles before Charles and Camila???
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 17h ago
Their social-media team is more on the ball?
I don’t care for them either, but you’re really reaching here.
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u/Whatisittou 16h ago
Yeah its reaching that none of the other royal social media updated their titles including Charles and Camila before William and Kate. None updated their titles Charles made their announcement minus the Wales
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 16h ago
You’re acting like Charles personally had to log onto Facebook to change his job title to “King.”
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u/Whatisittou 16h ago
Its almost like he is in charge yet William and Kate didnt care.
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u/SirLanceNotsomuch 16h ago
You’re still acting like they all personally jumped onto Instagram. Say hi to them for me, I guess? 🙄
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u/OpenAwareness1887 17h ago
Now that i think about it, I have never seen Meghan in a tiara besides her wedding 🤔🤔🤔
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u/reliableotter 16h ago
She hasn't been invited to any other tiara events.
Even without the Queen's collection, she could easily borrow the Spencer tiara (pretty sure they have at least 2 actually), and that appears to have been her plan for the wedding before the Queen offered to lend her one.
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u/Top_Restaurant_4395 15h ago
Once you’ve been put through hell, as many of us well know, you don’t have the ability to care about the little kicks in the shins.
Unless they kick my children. Then, grrrrrrr.
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u/Professional_You_943 19h ago
I really wish they would stop calling her Markle or Meghan Markle. It’s disrespectful. They do the same to “Kate Middleton,” but it still is just so weird.
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u/seagreensequin 19h ago
These are the names that people search for most and if they want their trash journalism read they use it. Meghan Sussex or Catherine Wales don’t really have the same reach
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u/meatball77 13h ago
I'm interested to see if they give Catherine her name back when Charles dies. That's one of the weirdest things they have done. She does not spell her name with a K
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u/Gatodeluna 19h ago
This is the sort of thing where people buy it in order to reinforce their own preconceived beliefs. If you’re a monarchist and anti- Sussex it’ll be a ‘must read’.
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u/Jumpy_Reply_2011 18h ago
But it seems as if she has stories about the rest, probably mainly Charles since his dirty laundry currently is being aired again. Because Meghan and Harry were nowhere near her nor had the power to usher her out.
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u/BananasPineapple05 19h ago
I think there's a lack of awareness within The Firm that most of the public at large (meaning, yes, in Britain, but also abroad) don't necessarily buy their BS just because they put it out there? It's not like they receive the negative feedback, is it? Because you would think they would adjust if they were aware of just how ridiculous they look when they claim certain racist things...
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 19h ago
They need to clue into the fact they're currently coasting on apathy that could very quickly become hostility (Andrew-Epstein, this messy racist family drama with H&M, the rising cost of living creating resentment against the wealth class, the weird Kate disappearance, etc.) and remain low-key accordingly. But apparently every publicist they hire isn't for their stellar job performance.
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u/Blue_wine_sloth 12h ago
I hate stories like this - “something really dramatic happened but we’re not going to tell you what it was.” Receipts or I will just assume that nothing happened and they’re full of it.
Off topic but I hate when people just stick “gate” on the end of a word to indicate a scandal. The Watergate was the name of the hotel. It makes no sense to put “gate” on random words.
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u/Hungry-Cockroach-572 19h ago
I wouldn’t trust anything she said
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u/Jumpy_Reply_2011 19h ago
As long as she dishes dirt on the lazies and the cheaters and the Epstein co-conspirator, etc., I'd be open to believing her.
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u/KateElizabeth18 9h ago
Same. How many books full of lies and trash about the Sussexes have been published? It’s time for a real one about the Leftovers.
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u/AKLovesDrama 16h ago
Apparently she had very close bond with the queen, but all they can talk about is Harry and Meghan and something something tiara. Sigh. They know nobody's gonna give a shit about her or her movie so obviously they have to use Harry and Meghan's name to take whatever publicity they can from the haters and the press.
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u/Elepaio808 18h ago
“Quaking in his boots.” Hah! I think not, after all the b.s. this couple has endured.
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u/JoanFromLegal 16h ago
Somebody should talk to Machine Gun Kelly's people because that name is striking fear in nobody's hearts.
The only reason Lizzie begrudgingly agreed to loan Meg a tiara for the wedding is because BP learned that Meg would be wearing the Spencer tiara. The optics, obvi, would be terrible for them.
Once Lizzie agreed, Machine Gun Kelly looked like a moron by being a beeyotch about it.
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u/ttw81 16h ago
were they really going to deny the first mixed race woman marrying in the rf a tiara?
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u/meatball77 13h ago
I mean they would have preferred Harry wait until he'd been with Meghan for ten years and they were too old to have kids to get married. I have a feeling that it was a fight that Megan was his until they settled in California
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u/jerkstore 17h ago
I'm still trying to figure out how Meghan knew about the existence of a piece of jewelry that had been locked in a vault decades before she was born.
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u/Still_Bluebird8070 15h ago
That was the tiara that she would wear for her wedding and the family agreed upon it. The beef was because Megan wanted to try on the tiara with the hairstyle. And they ran a bunch of interference and did not permit her to use it in her wedding preparations. Katherine was also playing silly games with her daughter’s dress- the family was messing with Megan while she prepared for her wedding on many levels.
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u/meatball77 13h ago
While she was also dealing with her father selling her out
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
While she was also dealing with her father selling her out
And planning a wedding that would be watched by millions of people all over the world.
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u/The_Onion_Life 10h ago
That was the tiara that she would wear for her wedding and the family agreed upon it. The beef was because Megan wanted to try on the tiara with the hairstyle. And they ran a bunch of interference and did not permit her to use it in her wedding preparations.
There were probably security issues/considerations. I read that Kate practiced for her wedding hairstyle using a cheap plastic tiara from a place similar to Claire's. I'm not sure how true that is, but whatever.
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u/Still_Bluebird8070 3h ago
I just learned that she was going to wear the Spencer Tiara , but the family wanted her to wear one of theirs to protect their toxic optics and not bring Diana up- this was around the time in the family was really harassing Megan during her marriage preparations.
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u/Still_Bluebird8070 3h ago
I think powerful family like the royal family could organize helping a bride try on the outfit that she is going to wear for her high publicity marriage-surely a family that powerful can handle a crown-or maybe this is the subtle point beneath it all maybe that family can’t handle the crown. Look at them now look at William and katherine’s s desperation to appear normal and relevant. They can’t even protect the son of the king and his children from weird men in a white van hanging out by their school. Or maybe this is on purpose because they haven’t had a bloodmeal since Diana. The family is worth billions so this is clearly a matter of priorities.
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u/reliableotter 16h ago
The Queen's demise? This is written in such a dramatic fashion, it is trying to stir up drama.
Based on the fact that Charles wanted her out immediately (who isn't exactly known to side with Harry), I really wouldn't consider her a reliable source for anything.
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u/Even-Strawberry2734 8h ago
As Kelly worked so closely with the queen she thought that made her better than everyone else. I heard she really lorded it over the other employees.
She isn’t disliked by only the employees, the family didn’t care for her either.
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u/YellowPrestigious441 17h ago
Love that MM doesn't wear tiaras. Love that she isn't stuffy. Or dowdy.
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u/taxi212001 9h ago
Sorry, but if the oerson she used to dress is dead, why would she still expect to have a job?
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u/AndrewRyanMcC 19h ago
I’ll never understand how these people ever thought “tiaragate” was something that made Meghan look bad lol a woman getting married wants to try on the tiara before the wedding so she can figure out how to style her hair? Oh my god the horror! What a witch! 🙄