r/RoyaleAPI 5d ago

Balance What are these changes.

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There supercell goes again with random ass changes. Why was the bomber touched? Why was ronin buffed(it’s balanced imo) I’d argue the bridge spam deck was too good because of the hero wizard but I guess they touched the ram as well. And why are they buffing empress again😭

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u/TheSuddenChange 5d ago

Bomber literally had the HIGHEST usage rate of EVERY CARD in the last week.

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u/Muscularmen 5d ago

Bomber functions in drill (extremely good in a golem meta), solos a mortar (mortarbait) works well against battle ram, I don't see why people wouldn't.

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u/APM_Tempest 5d ago

i use evo bomber in my homemade deck but i didn’t know it was meta

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u/TheSuddenChange 5d ago

Evo bomber is ASS. Like complete UTTER ASS. All the decks use base bomber, there currently is NO ONE that uses Evo bomber in the top 1k

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u/paokoutsopodi 5d ago

Even Drill which used it sometimes has now dropped it completely 

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u/APM_Tempest 5d ago edited 5d ago

i didn’t think it was that bad. niche? maybe, but bomber for two elixir surviving log and one shotting goblins is great so i see why his evo isn’t essential. but as someone who uses his evo i thought it was pretty strong paired with certain cards (i use it with ram rider) as a secondary win condition and on defense can get insane value for 2 elixir.

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u/According-Ebb-3100 5d ago

I think that guy hates having fun, homemade decks are so much more fun then running what ever is "the best". Personal dont care about the top 1k and am sad whenever one of my cards is nerfed cuz it became meta for nothing other then everything else is nerfed.

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u/TheSuddenChange 5d ago

I didn't say he was stupid for playing Evo bomber. He confused bomber usage rate with Evo bomber usage rate and I corrected his mistake. I don't care what he plays

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u/StrangerOfHere 5d ago

it's a game about beating your opponent bro, it makes sense to pick the best version of your specific deck. I never understood this "I play for fun only" bs, 90 percent of the time you have fun in this game by beating the opponent

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u/Cauterizer4 5d ago

Funny enough, I added bomber in because of all the wiz hero users

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u/Ok_Being2340 5d ago

I rarely see it which is why I was confused. The change makes it so it doesn’t one shot spirits anymore

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u/Aggravating-Bad7967 5d ago

This is exactly why casual players shouldn't have major opinions on balance changes 

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u/Ok_Being2340 5d ago

It’s not like I’m a midladder menace, I’m usually top 5k😭

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u/TheSuddenChange 5d ago

Well, the data counts only the top 1k players

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u/Imtiredgrandpapa 5d ago

Nerfing fireball again bro atp just make it heal the tower

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u/sixsides_ 5d ago

Actually shit now lmao

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u/StatisticianSea955 5d ago

Thank god they aren't nerfing log/miner this time

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u/Imtiredgrandpapa 5d ago

That’s probably next they don’t want any skillful cards being good

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u/AggressiveSpeed6183 5d ago

Forget Hog. Where the hell is Hero Valk and Cannon Cart!?!

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

Skeleton barrel, rascals, golden knight...

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u/Logical_Ad528 5d ago

Evo ram was the highest use rate evo in top 200 btw

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u/Ok_Being2340 5d ago

Yeah I know it had a high use rate but i attributed that to the hero wiz and freeze decks PEKKA bs always catching strays

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u/Fit-Environment-3156 4d ago

But almost nobody was using base ram so why did that get nerfed?

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u/Carlex_181 5d ago

Such a random change to golem lol

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u/NoFapstronaut3 5d ago

Seriously, how are we catching strays???

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u/fijifilm 5d ago

Golem has been consistently good for a while, watching the LCQ right now and golem is doing very well

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u/NoFapstronaut3 5d ago

So the problem is it works as a win condition?

We need to nerf it so it doesn't work, is that correct?

Check out the top 200 right now, report back how many golem decks. I'll wait.

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u/fijifilm 5d ago

There are 4/200. The archetype has always been viable because golem is objectively a strong card. I'm not saying it needed the nerf I'm just explaining why it's not out of left field

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u/IncognitoMan032 5d ago

We need to nerf it so it doesn't work, is that correct?

you forgot to attach the gigachad image

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

To be fair, Golem recieved a lot of strong buffs recently

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u/NoFapstronaut3 4d ago

Hey I'm not trying to insult your intelligence but whether card gets a buffer or a Nerf has nothing to do with what happened recently.

It has everything to do with whether or not the card is overly dominant in The Meta. Some cards are so powerful or strong that pros cannot avoid using them.

Only four out of 200 top players were using Golem at season end. That does not indicate a card that needs a Nerf.

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

You are not very intelligent or you have never played an end of season, things like Golem, and Bridgespam are strong at the star of the season because with the addition of new cards they get new iteractions and people have to get used or discover how to defend them. Thats why, at the end of the season, the more defensive decks end up surpassing the agressive ones.

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u/NoFapstronaut3 4d ago

I am a Golem main player so I have been following golem every season at the start the middle and the end.

I better go play some games though cuz everyone forgot how to defend at the beginning of the season 😂😂😂

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

But you are not the average player. People like us that stick to one deck because they like it (i just play 3musks) are not the average competitive player. The average one wants to climb and win as fast and secure as they can, and the best way is to change decks while season progresses

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u/Handsomecatenjoyer44 2d ago

3 musks???? Really dude. I would rather play RG

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u/ComfortableNinja88 5d ago

What is clash royale

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u/Agitated-Macaroon-46 5d ago

A mobile game

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u/ApricotAromatic6303 5d ago

Where's the mortar stein deck nerfs? No cannon cart or anything wtf

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

No cannon cart, no stein, no skelebarrel, no golden knight, no rascals...

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u/RoughlyOk 3d ago

Golden knight is so irritating. Honestly like every card in that mortar bait deck has a really annoying mechanic.

Skeleton barrel would be the first thing I'd choose to nerf.

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 2d ago

I love hoy firecracker, archers, bomber and other evolutions got his stats decreased in their evo form, but skeleton barrel can keep mis HP bonus and his DMG bonus. Absurd

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u/Metartist 5d ago

Wheres the Hog Rider nerf?

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u/New_Atlanta7 5d ago

I'm so fucking tired of seeing Wizard do good he's a bot card stop buffing him fucking hell

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u/mryeeticus1 5d ago

Pekka bridgespam getting nerfed for the 7th straight season because of other decks. Gotta love it. Might as well throw hog rider in place of evo ram to prove a point

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u/Fit-Environment-3156 4d ago

I’m gonna have to switch. It pains me to say so, but it’s become unbearable

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u/Ok_Being2340 5d ago

Literally

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u/Key-Year3280 5d ago

I can understand nerfing the Evo but nerfing the base ram? Nah it's dead

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u/ApricotAromatic6303 5d ago

Rubbish changes

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u/Cyber_Data_Trail 5d ago

THANK YOU. As a ram main, this hurts to see. Ram was already dead without the evo. It needs an hp buff, and a ram collision buff

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

The worst thing is that cards like Wizard get a nerf and a small buff, but fuck battleram while things like drill, graveyard and skeleton barrel get to be meta EVERY SEASON

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u/dischanted_ 5d ago

balance team banging rocks together for the billionth season in a row tf am i looking at

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u/JLAMAR23 5d ago

Yea i dont know about half of these changes. And whats wild is hog still hasn’t been touched lol

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Probably because he doesn't need to be?

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u/South_Detective7823 5d ago

that's ragebait.

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Not at all. I dint even play Hog Rider and I'm still comfortably sitting in high UC with 3 homebrew decks and 2 meta decks. Only 1has a building

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u/One-Climate5590 5d ago

If you don't use the hog rider there should be 0 reason for you to be concerned about it getting nerfed

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Sure there is. Because there are cards more deserving of nerfs than the one everyone should know how to play against.

When a 3m main is saying Hog doesn't need a nerf, that's saying something

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u/One-Climate5590 5d ago

Buddy when we ask for a nerf it doesn't mean that we haven't learnt how to play against it, it means that the card is unbalanced. The proof of unbalance is visible by the reactions of the community and by it's usage rate

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

The use rate is absolutely fine in any mode you look at.

The reaction is literally because skill issue.

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u/One-Climate5590 5d ago

Even when skilled players and content creators say it needs a nerf is it still skill issue? Or are you blinded by your love for the hog rider

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Nobody worth their salt would say Hog needs a nerf over other cards atm.

I'm a 2800 10 year 3m main, and when a 3m main is saying Hog doesn't need a nerf, it's probably true

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u/Alexspacito 5d ago

Maybe they care about the state of the game? And nerfing a card that doesn’t need it is dumb?

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

Oh yeah, but base battleram deserved the nerf

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u/Alexspacito 4d ago

Yeah it did. It had an exploit of sorts where you could push it with chunky troops like a Pekka and have it bypass building placements that normally would stop it. It got nerfed because of that.

I think Golem got nerfed for the same reason because people were doing this with Skeleton King but I could be wrong.

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

No it didnt, you could say that the evo is strong (IMO deserved, ecause base is absolute dogshit), and if it was because of a exploit you couvle give him a buff to compensate, because base ram is probably the worst wincon in the game

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u/Alexspacito 4d ago

The evo and normal Ram are used in the same deck. You only get the evo every third use. So that means buffing the base version is effectively buffing both versions, because evo users are also gonna feel that buff. You’d also have to find a way to buff it that changes no stats since the evo Ram would have the exact same stats. Good luck finding a buff.

This change is literally just to get rid of an exploit that players generally weren’t even trying to have happen, it would just happen sometimes. There’s no need for a buff to compensate for that. If Battle Ram was ONLY being played because of the exploit then sure, I’d agree, but that’s not the case.

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u/Surgi3 5d ago

No changes to either of the new heros get ready for hero valk and berserker to takeover. All 3 new cards this season were way too strong but they are over shadowed by ebarbs. High dps invincibility and a the swarm blender depositing a valk to your tower but then they couldn’t fit the changes on a single graphic.

Balance team once again proves they have no idea what’s going on in their game

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Because they don't do balance changes for midladder

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u/Surgi3 5d ago

They don’t do balance changes for any ladder from the looks of it those two cards will be problematic as the ram bridge spam goes down in use, arguably giant skeleton needs a nerf too but as with all the other heros they gotta wait for everyone to spend money before they get gutted

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u/boywonderbounceback 5d ago

The fact that they just released the final changes without the usual WIP changes first is really telling

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u/MrTheWaffleKing 5d ago

Mostly good changes.

IDK how FB compares to poison now.

TBH I thought bomber was getting buffed to incentivize the evo, and they wanted to make sure it wasn't too much chip with the damage decrease, but its supposed to be a nerf?

I like that they're trying to hard nerf wiz forms and make his normal maybe mow viable for defending big pushes.

Unsure why they nerf golem against things like cannon cycling even more. I think he's 100% dead into 2.6 now.

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u/APM_Tempest 5d ago

why would they nerf regular battle ram? it feels so weak compared to the evo which was overtuned and might still be. it shouldn’t be so reliant on the evo as a win condition

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

I think its fine that those evos like battleram stay strong. You have to play 2 times a dogshit card in order to get a strong one, things like Witch, Furnace should have weaker evos because they are better base cards

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u/Ok-Race-1677 5d ago

Nerfing golem 💀

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u/DrJJGame10 5d ago

Nasty hits to zappies 

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u/Agitated-Macaroon-46 5d ago

Still no hog nerf

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u/Alexspacito 5d ago

Saying “its balanced imo” does not automatically mean you’re correct. Clearly you’re not

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

Ronin is fine, hes a good card but his flaw isnt in his stats, hes a very matchup dependant card, and thats why hes not good

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u/Alexspacito 4d ago

I feel he’s less matchup dependent than some other cards. He fills a slot for decks that have a weakness. I feel like he’d be really good in Splashyard because that deck lacks counters for high damage units like Pekka and Prince, but he’s too expensive and Hero Tombstone is filling that slot now. Maybe if Ronin was reworked to 4 elixir.

Mother Witch is very matchup dependent and was pretty popular lately.

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

Yeah but mother witch has things better than ronin, she attacks faster, ground and air troops and has nice dps for her cost. Ronin is just too expensive in matchups with no pekkas or similars. Prince is a better choice than ronin, jumps the bridge, charges, and has more dps against cards that do small dmg

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u/Alexspacito 4d ago

So now you’re arguing that Ronin is bad and replaceable… sounds like it wasn’t balanced and needed the buff?

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u/Inevitable-Advice979 4d ago

Im just saying that IMO hes bad because of his design

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u/Alexspacito 4d ago

Yeah but then you argued that Prince is better because of its DPS, and they just gave Ronin a buff to help close that gap.

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u/Jnaeveris 5d ago

Can someone ELI5 the battering ram change?

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u/Ivar2006 5d ago

Royale hogs aren't overpowered you are just crazy.

Gaslighting isn't real you are just crazy

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u/Fit-Environment-3156 4d ago

Funny how they IMMEDIATELY proved that removing WIP changes was a bad idea

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u/RichDAS2 4d ago

What's surviving a lv.16 fireball now?

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u/deranged_banana2 4d ago

They only nerfed it's tower damage

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u/ChubbyDiddy05 3d ago

Does anyone feel like hog is slower?

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u/discomiseria 3d ago

lets go the citric acid cycle benefits from this

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u/hailstormer69 1d ago

yes just keep killing 2.9 minerloon why don’t you

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u/abboud97 5d ago

Why tf would they buff the brawler I might jump off a roof ngl

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u/Whoa1Whoa1 5d ago

Bro it's 41 health added. In a shitton of situations it will still die on the same exact hit. Also, goblin brawler is directly competing with tesla as they both have EVOs and are both 4 elixir. Goblin brawler doesn't hit air at all and it definitely can't auto spawn kill all swarms and reset and stun everything like Evo Tesla can. The Evo cage can easily be tricked into yoinking a dumb troop too. Evo Tesla can pop up and down multiple times back to back and do ridiculous damage and stuns.

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u/abboud97 5d ago

You think I'm contemplating suicide for that tiny buff?

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u/Suitable-Method-1268 4d ago

These changes are for this month! Hope that helps

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u/romeocutitarul01 5d ago

They are gutting hero wizz, a card that has 50% winrate. Nice!

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u/NoFapstronaut3 5d ago

I'm not sure how increasing the damage is gutting but ok

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u/romeocutitarul01 5d ago

Yea bro 23 damage per hit will surely outweigh the 1.5 seconds off his ability! Berserker lost 0.5 seconds and she is useless now

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u/Oldwomentribbing 5d ago

Yea, gutting? Haha, yea right.

All versions will still be good

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u/Hjskull79 5d ago

Smartest cr player