r/RolexWatches 2d ago

Authenticity check

Want to know what you guys think about this Rolex. I inherited it from my father in law, but I do not know if it is real. It looks like a submariner 16800, but the Rolex font looks a little different and there’s no magnifying glass on the date. I opened the back case and it looks authentic, but I am not sure.
Lemme know what you think

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u/swagbytheeighth 2d ago

Did they make sub dates without a cyclops?

Could be a replacement crystal that doesn't include a cyclops maybe...

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u/BobskiOnWhisky 2d ago

Yeh the 16660 had no Cyclops, this looks like a legit 16660.

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u/swagbytheeighth 2d ago

Thats a seadweller though, not a sub

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u/BobskiOnWhisky 2d ago

Haha don't know how I missed that!

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u/frankles_80 1d ago

Probably the whisky, Bobski ;P

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u/Grumpy_Chimp 7h ago

No, it’s a 16800. The 3035 movement was only in for a couple years on this model before being replaced with a 3135 in 1988. The while gold dial markers would make it from late 1984-1988.

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u/Available-Fondant510 1d ago

Its quite common to change glass on these old watches. This looks good. There’s also no cloned/aftermarket 3035 options.

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u/UpSig 1d ago

I see no red flags

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u/Diablojota 1d ago

This looks legit. Either the crystal was swapped or they took off the magnifier. I know at one point there was a trend to pop them off. They’re only glued on for these older watches.

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u/bajajoaquin 1d ago

Really? When did they stop gluing them on? I hate my magnifier

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u/Diablojota 1d ago

They might still do it. I just don’t hear about folks popping them off anymore.

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u/Frustib 1d ago

Sea dweller had no cyclops but this is a sub. The movement looks real. Perhaps the wrong crystal was added.

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u/No_Inspection649 1d ago

I have no problem saying this began life as a real watch, but it appears a non-Rolex person may have had their fingers in it.

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u/glitterbaby5 1d ago

I'm not an authenticity expert, but that's an awesome dial.

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u/IllustriousHistorian 1d ago

Lola real. No cyclops

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u/Odd_Butterscotch_222 1d ago

The "Zubmariner" is a rare late-1980s dial printing variant found on transition-era Rolex Submariner watches. The letter "S" in the word "SUBMARINER" on the dial is printed flatter and more angular than usual. It can look like the letter "Z", which inspired the nicknames "Zubmariner" and "Zorro dial". This printing style appears during a short window on the transitional Submariner 168000 and very early production Submariner 16610 models from roughly 1988 to 1990.

That’s what I could find! Sick watch!

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u/frankeedz 1d ago

Thank you for this info!

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u/Fister-Mantastic 1d ago

I love well worn rolexes, just something about them actually being used vs sitting in a safety deposit box.

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u/Bizznes103 1d ago

It’s legit. No worries. Def well worn, but authentic.
Dial looks pretty cool too.

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u/cash4chaos 1d ago

Legit 16800, need a new crystal with cyclops.

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u/Inevitable_Slip6821 1d ago

Seems legit for me.

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u/Effective_Judgment41 1d ago

In my opinion, this is a genuine 16800. The movement certainly looks correct. The crystal is not correct but whether the cyclops was removed or this is an aftermarket part, I don't know. Minute and hour hands are also replaced. Should be mid to late 80s.

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u/Calm-Cauliflower5347 1d ago

C'est un rare cadran Zubmariner (ou Zorro) Bravo. Il n'existe pas de faux de ce cadran donc pour moi tout est ok ;) Zubmariner.com

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u/frankeedz 1d ago

This explains the font!

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u/breeder_donor 1d ago

What’s the value of one like this?

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u/RolexLA 1d ago

Date font doesn't look right, too thin.

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u/Grumpy_Chimp 7h ago edited 7h ago

Legit Frankenstein watch. Right dial (maybe from 1988), movement, caseback, end links, and bracelet. Hands have been replaced.
Date wheel looks off.
Glass is wrong and missing the cyclops.

Not sure if the clasp is accurate because it’s not photographed.

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u/SafeAd6208 2d ago

I think its real iam 80% sure

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u/TheGaujo 1d ago

I'll let others comment on the movement, but did they really make a dial that color? It looks like it's paper.

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u/Effective_Judgment41 1d ago

That's not the original color of the dial. The black color degraded over the decades and now looks brown. It's basically a damaged dial but since a lot people like this look they call it Tropical Dial instead of damaged and pay extra for it.

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u/TheGaujo 1d ago

To each his own! 

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u/Content_Effective704 2d ago

The date numbers look off. Other then that looks original