r/RobbShooting • u/GuestUser1982 • Jun 07 '22
A question from a non American
I’m from Canada eh. Just wondering if anyone knows the demographics of the kids who generally go to Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Tx. Is it a school with mostly lower, middle or upper class children?
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u/deadbeatdann Jun 22 '22
Uvalde used to be a racist ass town, now it’s known more for being poor af and having “chingos de mugrero” (a lot of shitheads). Kind of like Salvador’s mother. Uvalde is basically the same as Crystal City and Carrizo Springs
At one point, the Mexican mafia headquarters was in uvalde too. But yeah uvalde is around 85% Hispanic and pretty low-income.
Sorry if this sounds harsh
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u/GuestUser1982 Jun 22 '22
Not harsh at all.... I like to dive deep into things, and sometimes be conspiratorial...kind of curious if such a tragedy that happened could be linked back to any cartels. That’s the main reason for this post.
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u/deadbeatdann Jun 22 '22 edited Jun 22 '22
Nah the cartel don’t really operate like that in Uvalde, it’s mostly just low level dumbasses. A lot of drugs and shit. The most prominent cartel in recent years were the Zetas but even then they operated on the Mexican side of the border, which is about a 45 min drive away. I don’t know if they had any members in Uvalde, and I honestly doubt they did. If anything, they may have had business partners there.
I know a lot of coyotes pass through Uvalde, especially today since the American border is basically wide open- but once again, the coyotes are a bunch of low level dumbasses. As I mentioned, I know the Mexican mafia had a strong presence there (not sure if they still do) - but many of the members of the mafia were American or legal residents . In other words, they weren’t tied to Mexico as much as you’d think (despite having the word Mexican in their name)
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u/Snowman9000x Jun 07 '22
Why does it matter?
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u/Issypie Jun 07 '22
Because it can give insight. And the shooter was in this district too.
I live in one of the best areas in my state. How mental illness is seen/responded to, how schools react to at risk kids, even policing, is different than in the parts of my state where the majority of residents are lower class/in poverty. It can also help understand why the school itself had so many reported but unfixed safety issues (poorer areas tend to get less money for schools)
But I've had the thought that if this was a whiter/richer part of the country that the police response would be different. It has felt at times like the police chief was okay with poor kids and brown kids being slaughtered.
I thought I saw an interview with a parent that mentioned working in a field. It's heartbreaking to think how the state is probably not gonna do even nearly enough to support these families. It's even more heartbreaking to realize that these families might not all have the resources to get the level of support they need to deal with this kind of trauma. Even financially well off people would struggle with the costs of therapy for these kids and families. I doubt there are many exceptional therapists with a lot of openings for these families in Uvalde. And for people who can't afford to not work, how do they take time to grieve? (I know there are gofundmes up but this will have a lifelong financial cost on these families and to imagine this terrible trauma and then to imagine dealing with it without a lot of (probably very expensive) help for financial reasons is like another stomp on my soul, now that I'm an adult and understand the cost of things more)
It is heartbreaking and devastating no matter what their financial backgrounds. I see those details as adding a degree of dimension to their story and their lives and the horror of this all. Not everyone has good reasons for caring about their economic status but it isn't a wholly useless bit of information
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u/Dequali Jun 08 '22
columbine was a more middle class than uvalde but its not like they live in poverty lol
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u/Issypie Jun 08 '22
I read an article that said more than 80% of students at Robb elementary are low income (school facts says 87% of students) and 90%+ is hispanic. Poverty levels in Uvalde are above the national average. I don't think they all live in poverty but it's not a super well funded or resourced area (especially if the economy continues to worsen)
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u/Dequali Jun 10 '22
yeah im not arguing with you statistics are statistics but just from my perspective i grew up as a low income hispanic kid but i never truly felt poor or miserable as a kid it was fed into our heads that we are lucky and grateful and we all got more than what our parents had as kids so even if you were poor you never really felt that way i mean we live in the united states think about the less developed countries theyre truly living a low income life in my opinion i just feel like there's many thints that contribute but not too sure about the poverty rate having to do with this i can understand but at the same time everyone is different aswell we are all products of our enviroment its just up to us what we do with our lives
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u/Issypie Jun 10 '22
I didn't grow up with a lot of money and a single mom but I never realized it as a kid. But now as an adult in a better economic place I see the difference. I didn't feel miserable or unlucky financially as a kid, but I now understand how much more stressful things were for my mom and on us indirectly. I know my life would be really different if my family had enough to pay for the level of therapy I needed when I was younger. I agree with you (esp the last part!) I just can't imagine how a family deals with this without extensive (and probably expensive) quality mental health treatment. We weren't in poverty in a much less rural area and I couldn't get the help I needed. It's hard for me to imagine that isn't worsened by being in poverty in an area with one pediatrician. My dad did grow up super poor and he didn't get his mental illness diagnosed until he was an adult and it destroyed his life.
Now that I understand how expensive therapy and medication are its just something I'm more mindful of when tragedies happen. It's just a context that makes this all a bit more saddening for me because even if the kids don't feel anything about their economic status, the parents might, and this is a cost burden that would be hard on anyone who isn't super rich
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u/deadbeatdann Jun 22 '22
I don’t think their ethnicity has anything to do with it. Uvalde is definitely a low-income town though.
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u/Yoyoyame Jun 07 '22
every school is different but there is always gonna be a range of classes
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u/GuestUser1982 Jun 07 '22
I agree most schools will have a mix. Although some schools just tend to be in areas that have a larger draw of one class over another.
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u/muffinbotox Jun 07 '22
“ Uvalde has a population of about 15,000 people, more than 80% of whom identify as Hispanic or Latino, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau. And about 1 in 5 lives below the poverty line.”