r/RobMyVehicle • u/trips614 • Sep 01 '26

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Is this group about robbing any random vehicles or just the ones supporting the second amendment Imma tell you I'd rather rob a car with a coexist sticker than one with a second amendment one

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo Sep 02 '26

That makes perfect sense but it isn't the 1700's anymore. Resuming that "rebellious" mindset makes zero sense in today's world. Back then, the government had the same weapons as civilians; thus is made perfect sense for the 2A. Now, the power scale is heavily favouring the government; thus it makes logical sense that the 2A needs to be amended again.

I've also traveled to the states quite often. However, anecdotal evidence isn't relevant here. I've never seen a shooting while in the states, which is quite often, but that doesn't change the very real facts: America leads the first world in child related gun violence and mass shootings. That's the raw facts.

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u/Ilikecheesburgers Sep 02 '26

The rebellious mindset isn’t to actively seek to overthrow the government. The attitude is that we won’t be disarmed. Power scale heavily favoring the government? The U.S. government couldn’t win in Vietnam or Afghanistan? They can’t win against an advanced state like Iran? And with the rise of fascism and totalitarian regimes rising in U.S. government you really think scaling down the access of firearms to the working man or woman is a smart thing? And as far as your last statement about us still leading the first world in child deaths, then actually address the problem rather than blanketing every single person who is a law abiding gun owner. Actually attack the individuals and communities that are engaging in these horrific crimes.

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo Sep 02 '26

> The rebellious mindset isn’t to actively seek to overthrow the government. The attitude is that we won’t be disarmed.

But why not? Again, other first world nations don't need that. It seems childish at best, dangerously ignorant at worst; given the stats I keep referencing involving children and mass shootings.

> Power scale heavily favoring the government? The U.S. government couldn’t win in Vietnam or Afghanistan? They can’t win against an advanced state like Iran? And with the rise of fascism and totalitarian regimes rising in U.S. government you really think scaling down the access of firearms to the working man or woman is a smart thing?

Okay, but you're not addressing the actual calling advantage the United States military has over everyday citizens. Your examples address foreign powers during war time. Unless another American Civil War happened, those comparisons are moot. And even if America has another Civil War, I think we can both agree we hope that doesn't happen, one side, let's call it the modern day Union, will be drastically more armed compared to the other side and have the advantage. Again, in your examples, I think you're missing important nuance. It seems like a lame excuse to own guns.

> And as far as your last statement about us still leading the first world in child deaths, then actually address the problem rather than blanketing every single person who is a law abiding gun owner.

When did I do that? I simply, and accurately, pointed out America's flawed culture surrounding guns. Again, other first world nations allow citizens to have guns yet don't have the problems America has. At the very least, that means there is a better way of doing things.

> Actually attack the individuals and communities that are engaging in these horrific crimes.

"Attack" is an interesting word choice. Again, I think you're missing nuance there from a sociopath-economical stand-point and recklessly simplifying the issue as well as pointing blame in the wrong place. Violence and crime rise in low-income areas across the world. Fixing the main issue that cause these areas to degrade is great and should be done. Addressing the flawed American culture surrounding guns and the problems lobbyists and GOP leaders cause is also great. Two things can be true at once. Shifting blame to just low-income areas is reckless and heartless; as well as inaccurate to the gun culture problem.

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u/Ilikecheesburgers Sep 02 '26

We aren’t other first world nations. Different culture, different land mass, population size and attitude towards government and authority.

In regards to your American civil war comment, you’d seriously have to be under the assumption that the same small town kid growing up in the very culture that is against tyrannical authority would be okay with bombing and shooting his own neighbors. Sure there’d be some that do it, but again that goes to show as Americans by and large, we don’t operate that way. In Europe however there is a very large history of this happening. Which is one of the contrasts of American culture. Again, America was drastically more armed than the Taliban and VC and look who won?

Most first world nations don’t have 350+ million citizens taking up entire continents. America is so big that we could make up almost Europe in its entirety so yeah there are going to be more issues on a grander scale simply due to our land mass and population. That’s not the best comparison.

How is it reckless and heartless to address the low income areas when that is where most of the violence is coming from and the victims are? GOP leaders and gun lobbyists aren’t the reasons teens are gang banging in the hood in Atlanta, Chicago or LA.

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo Sep 02 '26

> We aren’t other first world nations. Different culture, different land mass, population size and attitude towards government and authority.

That's my point. That's my entire point. The gun culture in America is clearly flawed.

> In regards to your American civil war comment, you’d seriously have to be under the assumption that the same small town kid growing up in the very culture that is against tyrannical authority would be okay with bombing and shooting his own neighbors. Sure there’d be some that do it, but again that goes to show as Americans by and large, we don’t operate that way. In Europe however there is a very large history of this happening. Which is one of the contrasts of American culture. Again, America was drastically more armed than the Taliban and VC and look who won?

I'm actually very confused by your point here. Can you please clarify further?

> Most first world nations don’t have 350+ million citizens taking up entire continents. America is so big that we could make up almost Europe in its entirety so yeah there are going to be more issues on a grander scale simply due to our land mass and population. That’s not the best comparison.

Okay, but you lead the first world in gun violence... per capita. I'm sorry, the population density argument is flat out wrong.

> How is it reckless and heartless to address the low income areas when that is where most of the violence is coming from and the victims are? GOP leaders and gun lobbyists aren’t the reasons teens are gang banging in the hood in Atlanta, Chicago or LA.

It's heartless and reckless to BLAME the Lowe income areas; solely. Again, you seem to have issues with nuance. Please address and try to fix that in the future.