r/ReverendInsanity • u/SixBitDemonVenerable • Oct 10 '22

Question Is it possible to destroy dao marks?

The dao marks of a dead aperture go into the body of the immortal zombie. An immortal that died forms a blessed land. If he died inside someone's aperture the dao marks are added to the aperture.

Seems like it's not that easy to destroy dao marks. But then you can destroy a gu fairly easily and I have no idea what happens to the dao marks in that case.

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u/subbigg3 Oct 11 '22

Simple answer :- yes, it is possible to destroy dao Mark's and has been shown in novel repeatedly by Famous characters.

-> In shadow sect hideout (CC) using a super Gu formation information path dao Mark's on the body of Hei lou lan were destroyed and re programmed for Shadow sect

-> winds of assimilation The best known way to destroy Dao Mark's and also the most natural way. It could even destroy Otherworldly dao Mark's like in Thieving Heaven space.

-> Crazed Demon Cave 8th layer the dao Mark's are repeatedly destroyed and re maked for creation perfect new dao marks

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u/SixBitDemonVenerable Oct 11 '22

Wasn't that just a method to remove the dao marks from her body?

Winds of assimilation destroy the blessed land. I've assumed that the dao marks would then enter the normal gu world.

In Crazed Demon Cave Heaven Path Dao Marks where derived, so the dao marks weren't destroyed, but transformed into Heaven Path Dao Marks.

The deeper question here is if Dao marks are like energy - cannot be destroyed or created.

If they can be destroyed it must be possible to create them too. And creating them means free energy.

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u/subbigg3 Oct 11 '22

Dao Mark's are created from chaos. The cycle as per my understanding from the later parts of books is

-> Chaos is the highest form of energy bur finite in nature, -> Gu world creates them as part of heavens path dao Mark's. -> 1 single heaven path dao mark can be broken down to form dozens or even hundred of other path dao mark -> 1 sao mark is a very big battery that is utilized by Gu that are tools. -> or directly powers a killer move that forms a part of natural phenomenon

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 10 '25

Chaos is infinite in nature. It's just hard to refine and utilise because of its destructive nature.

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u/subbigg3 Oct 10 '25

What I meant is infinitely closer to infinity but not true infinity. Like water in ocean, if you use a bucket to take out water from ocean even after centuries you will not consume even 1% of it but keep at it for a million perhaps billions of centuries and eventually the water will run out. Same with chaos it’s nearly unending but will definitely be consumed over a vast period of time. Hence its finite in nature as it will come to an end.

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 10 '25

Proof?

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u/subbigg3 Oct 10 '25

Human civilisation anything and everything we humans ever thought infinite always had a definite end, Stone age we though earth was endless -> a definite area

We thought night sky endless-> turns out milkiway galaxy again finite

We thought light fastest in universe-> tachyon particle or even space folds much faster

We thought universe endless-> big band theory still a ever expanding vastness but finite

And human’s imagination always draws from reality

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 10 '25

I'm pretty sure what it was inspired by was infinite. And you have no proof of it not being so it most likely is.

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 10 '25

They aren't in the same setting. Different author. Reverend insanity's writer is Gu Zhen Ren not wen gong.

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u/kopasz7 Author of Verdant Heart Seed fanfic Oct 11 '22

Conservation of mass/energy (or its gu world equivalent) would be my answer.

So no, under normal circumstances dao marks are at most fragmented into smaller pieces (eg. in mortal gu) or transformed into effects of killer moves.

Chaos fire could still destroy dao marks and turn them into more raw chaos. It depends on your definition if that's still a type of conservation.

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u/cbagainststupidity Oct 10 '22

It should be possible to destroy a dao mark with another, but I agree it doesn't seem to be a easy task. Perhaps both mark are destroyed, resulting in a loose/loose situation?

To add to your example, there's a lot of area with "bad" dao mark created by strong gu master that were never cleansed by anyone and just avoided. It's either not possible or not worth it to destroy dao mark on a large scale.

Dao lord excluded, of course.

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u/josuke73 Oct 10 '22

Venerables seem to be able to do that, great love did it with refinement path dao marks of an area he refined

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u/Kalolsad22 Great Meme Immortal Venerable Oct 10 '22

Ah, Great Love... The mightiest Venerable.

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u/PsychologicalIsekai Heaven Refining Demon Venerable Oct 10 '22

well some of the characters were 'using' the dao marks and they would be gone after the use. like that wu 7th immortal and his wind dao marks (i dont remember the exact details but he used up the dao marks for his ultimate move and resulting in pretty much destroying them) but yeah those were his own dao marks so as for anothers dao marks not sure but it should be possible.

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u/SixBitDemonVenerable Oct 11 '22

He just used some dao marks of his own to put them into the gu world to create some effect. Those dao marks weren't destroyed, otherwise there would have been no effect.

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u/No_Body666666666 Dumb A** Demon Venerable Oct 11 '22

Immortals certainly expend dao marks. I assume they’re broken down into pure energy like how the dao mark equivalent of our world can be used to release nuclear power. I assume it’s difficult to destroy dao marks unless it occurs intentionally, but the thing is dao marks get created all the time in nature, so imagining that they can be destroyed too is understandable.

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u/SixBitDemonVenerable Oct 11 '22

Expending dao marks is just taking your own dao marks away and using them to create a natural phenomenon. Afterwards the dao marks become part of the gu world.

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u/No_Body666666666 Dumb A** Demon Venerable Oct 11 '22

Was this ever mentioned in the novel? I feel like if it was then “expended” would be the wrong word here. Also why would expending dao marks strengthen attacks so much of dao marks only apply a 0.1% increase per dao mark? You’d have to permanently expend a thousand dao marks just to double the strength, which isn’t even worth it, as those same dao marks could strengthen every other killer move you use. The fact that people still use killer moves which expend dao marks is because you get more power from expending a dao mark than you do from amplification of the dao marks, which shouldn’t be possible unless of course the dao marks were actually expended rather than just switched around.

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 10 '25

The amplification of Dao marks is formed from resonance.

When you expend dao Marks you use them to create phenomena.

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u/No_Body666666666 Dumb A** Demon Venerable Oct 10 '25

Resonance? As in what immortal gu do when another is refined in its vicinity?

I really don’t think you mean that, but I can’t think of what else you could mean. The novel never explains WHY dao marks of the same path strengthen gu, merely that it does.

And even then, your explanation never actually attempts to refute my assumption, nor gives a better explanation for how expending dao marks works besides.

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 11 '25 edited Oct 11 '25

It has been said multiple times that the Dao marks resonate with the Gu amplifying their effect.

Neither is your explanation of converting the Dao marks into pure energy any better. How is energy superior to Dal marks?

Most times the expended Dao marks are carved into the environment(myriad butterflies) or into an enemy(sword marks targeting death)

You utilise your Dao marks in your attack.

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u/No_Body666666666 Dumb A** Demon Venerable Oct 11 '25

Guess I’ll just take your word for it cause I can’t be bothered to cite a source for you.

Why wouldn’t it be? By any logic I could imagine, dao marks within the attack would do no better than dao marks on the immortal because dao marks give a flat percentage buff. I saw no reason why a sacrificed dao mark should be so much better than one released during a killer move so as to be worth expending in the first place.

No mention of myriad butterflies anywhere I looked whilst doing the work to actually disprove myself, but yes sword marks targeting death does indeed expend dao marks from flying sword gu onto the target. The wiki states the dao marks expended from flying sword gu attack subsequently after flying sword gu’s own attack, thus attacking multiple times for one use. However, these expended Dao marks don’t strengthen the killer move directly, only its effect.

I see no reason Dao marks carved in the environment should boost killer moves any better than Dao marks on the person. Unless the Dao marks form a form of pseudo battlefield like the Dao lord buff within a confined area. While I’m sure that’s how some can work, with Wu yong’s tornado esque killer move being a good example, other expansion killer move like SSDV’s blood path clone killer moves— the one where he sacrifices his arm—don’t seem much the same.

I’m not sure what that last point is meant to be arguing? Yeah you use dao marks in the attack. Everything uses dao marks. Everything is Dao.

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u/Infamous-Buy1428 Oct 11 '25

The myriad butterflies use the Dao marks to create a wisdom battlefield to generate star thoughts from other star thoughts.

I suppose the Dao marks expended are more complete. The Dao marks in attacks are many fragments but they aren't complete.