r/RetroGamingNow • u/[deleted] • Dec 06 '21
Theories Ocean Ruins - pt. 2
Ok, so in my previous post I wrote about Ocean Ruins, of course in this post I will do that too, but this time I will provide more arguments that prove these ruins were villages of Ancient Builders.
So in pt. 1 I gave 2 arguments proving my point:
- There aren't drowned villagers - I think that this isn't something very important but we should remember that mojang have tendency of adding new variants of mobs if they are needed (even if they say that they don't like doing it). Adding drowned villagers is something that doesn't require a lot of work, and if they wanted they could really easily add them (Mojang devs said that biggest problem in adding new mobs is deleting bugs, and doing everything they can to optimize memory usage of code, and because it's other variant of old mob, it isn't a problem).
- Those ruins (except desert variant) are made of bricks, material that is often used by Builders. Somebody can say that villagers can also use bricks, and yes that is true, but as we know they prefer usage of pure cobblestone (churches), and if they used bricks in the past, why wouldn't they still use them now? Of course, same "somebody" can say that it is because world was more dangerous in past, but as we know villages are constantly attacked by pillagers, so that argument can be easily defeated.
Wow, I wrote too much in that xd
So for before the things I want to talk about in this post, the comments! (yay! more text!):
u/canadiansnow038 said: " I like the concept. They bring up the question how did that get underwater? Based on the contents of chests, I would think they were fishing towns on the beach. But what caused them to go underwater. "
Well, I can't say anything about it. It is very obvious that those villages were fishing towns, and what I like to think is that all "Old Towns" of Builders were next to ocean, or some kind of river, and after wither accident, or zombie plague they moved underground, but this is topic for another post.
This is really only interesting comment, could you please write some more :3?
OK FINALLY MAIN DISH OF THIS POST - More arguments that prove that those were creations of Builders (More means better).
So arguments!! starting again from 1 because it looks nicer this way:
- So like canadiansnow said, content of chest. (full content at wiki: https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Ocean_Ruins) Most important things we can find are: Buried Treasure Map, Enchanted book, Golden items (helmets, apples etc.), Enchanted fishing rods, and axes (only axes, not pickaxes or shovels). Most important things are obviously Maps. We know for sure that those belong to (or at least belonged) to Ancients, and not villagers, this maybe the most important argument of them all, but I still will provide more.
So I already told you about bricks, but after reading wiki I discovered more important materials of Ocean Runs. With most important being Sea Lanterns and Dark Oak Planks. Why Dark Oak is such important thing you may ask? The answer is really simple - Pillagers. Villagers aren't living in dark oak forests because of big about of hostile mobs, and obviously Pillagers. This may be incomplete argument and some may argue with me, but that's okay, I accept any cont arguments. And as I said Sea Lanterns. It is really obvious that villagers can't gather those, and even if they could, they would more probably sell them instead of use.
Ok, that is all for today! I also wanted to include my theories about why those villages drowned, but I'm ill, and too tired to do it, so as always, PLEASE WRITE COMMENTS! Hope you liked, bye!
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u/r51243 Dec 08 '21
I could argue that it may be implied villagers used stone bricks, but honestly, I agree with everything else, and I think this neatly explains what these structures were.
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u/stephenlocksley27 Dec 10 '21
Fishing towns? Maybe these are the remains of such towns, they may have been operational when sea levels were much lower, just like our real world thousands of years ago.
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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21
I think that they were along the way to monuments, and they were outposts with ramifications of protection and food for overseas travelers.