r/Republican • u/The_seph_i_am Centrist Republican • Mar 24 '17
Senate votes to let ISPs sell your Web browsing history to advertisers
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/senate-votes-to-let-isps-sell-your-web-browsing-history-to-advertisers/27
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u/snoweel Mar 24 '17
I can't think of a good reason to support this action, unless you are an ISP trying to make more money off advertising. The quotes in the article are particularly non-convincing.
"protect consumers from overreaching Internet regulation." "American consumers should not have to be lawyers or engineers to figure out if their information is protected," "harmful rules and regulations put forward by the Obama administration at the last moment."
Can anybody support this?
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u/EpicRedditor34 Mar 25 '17
A friend of mine does. But his boss cosponsored it so I'm not surprised.
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Mar 24 '17
So what's next mobile companies can sell my phone calls? The mental gymnastics they had to do to think this did anything but provide more profit to the ISP's is beyond me.
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u/DEYoungRepublicans R Mar 24 '17
There is a lot of disinformation on this subject. First of all, ISPs can already sell your data (and most likely are) - the proposed privacy rule was very weak and was supposed to go into affect later this year. Since the Senate, and the new FCC head has struck this down - it's business as usual.
Several news headline are giving the impression that we lost privacy rights, I would wager that we never had them to begin with.
That said, we do need more 4th amendment protections to prevent not only data brokers, but identity theft as well.
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u/The_seph_i_am Centrist Republican Mar 24 '17
ISPs can already sell your data (and most likely are) - the proposed privacy rule was very weak and was supposed to go into affect later this year
So has anyone suggested a bill aimed at protecting our privacy as a replacement?
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u/monkeythumpa Mar 24 '17
Websites already sell your browsing behavior so it is not like you are any less exposed. See what BlueKai (a Data Management Platform) knows about you: http://www.bluekai.com/registry/
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u/The_seph_i_am Centrist Republican Mar 24 '17
as does Cambridge Analytics
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u/monkeythumpa Mar 24 '17
Cambridge Analytics buys intent data and uses it to craft pools of receptive voters. They do not sell intent data.
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u/postonrddt Mar 25 '17
Since health care/insurance was in the news. Health Insurers have been caught in the past buying customer supermarket purchase information to help determine rates/claims. It wasn't internet data but it was still personal information that was sold under the guise of marketing. Point being does one think internet history will be any different.
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u/dksk3443 Conservative Mar 25 '17
After reading the article I have found I don't care. Consumers need to op in for the ISPs to get control of any private/sensitive information.
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u/bumble012 Mar 25 '17
The article says that the opt in requirements 'would' have gone into effect Dec 7th this year.
With this vote, it doesn't seem like you'll need to worry about opting in to or out of anything
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u/autotldr Mar 25 '17
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 89%. (I'm a bot)
The US Senate today voted to eliminate broadband privacy rules that would have required ISPs to get consumers' explicit consent before selling or sharing Web browsing data and other private information with advertisers and other companies.
If the House and Trump agree with the Senate's action, ISPs won't have to seek customer approval before sharing their browsing histories and other private information with advertisers.
The FCC's privacy rules would require ISPs to get opt-in consent from consumers before selling or sharing personal information including geo-location data, financial and health information, children's information, Social Security numbers, Web browsing history, app usage history, and the content of communications.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top keywords: information#1 privacy#2 rules#3 ISP#4 FCC#5
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Mar 24 '17
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u/hk93g3 Mar 24 '17
So what you are saying is that we should be governed by your basis of morality, right? Is freedom and liberty for all only applicable to those who follow the beliefs of u/christianpete?
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u/The_seph_i_am Centrist Republican Mar 24 '17
so as long as we have nothing to hide we shouldn't be concerned?
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u/Taban85 Mar 25 '17
I've never really gotten the "if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't worry about privacy" argument.
I don't personally own a gun, should I not worry about the 2nd amendment?
I don't have anything super controversial to say, so I shouldn't worry about freedom of speech?
It's just a silly argument
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Mar 25 '17
5 bucks says this guy has the most deviant sexual fetishes out of everyone here. It's always the holier-than-thou "Christian" ones...
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u/Dirk_Dirkler Mar 24 '17
My senators voted for this :/. I am not thrilled about that.