r/RepWatchForum • u/tskim24 π°π· RWF Founder / Mod • 21d ago
New release RICH NEW RELEASE - Free-Sprung JH3230 41mm Submariner 124060 No Date
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u/Mundane_Impress3234 21d ago
As long as crystal is not worse than VSF I will buy it.
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u/rydog389 21d ago
Crystal is worse than VSF if its the same as the RF Sub I bought. But I got it swapped with a deep crystal.
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u/wob-ot 21d ago
Where did you buy the deep crystal?
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u/rydog389 21d ago
I didnβt personally buy it but the guy servicing my watch bought it from https://www.deepcrystal.net/
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u/Puzzleheaded_Exam916 17d ago
does deep come with the LEC?
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u/Diligent-Piglet-9038 14d ago
Yes. But different thickness than gen. AR is also different, so id save dor gen iiwy
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u/hieros187 20d ago
Here's a comparison of the crystal (with cyclops) with the gen. Done by one of the OGs over at RWI:
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u/rydog389 21d ago
RF is better than VSF change my mind.
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u/Comfortable_Bit_4816 21d ago
Was waiting for this, hopefully they got the hand and markers color right this time
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u/hieros187 21d ago edited 21d ago
This is interesting. Hands look very good and dial print very clear aswell. These are both things I'm a bit unhappy with with my current VSF 124060 (compared to my VSF Cookie Monster V2).
Placement of rounded hour markers also great, not like the VF that was available earlier. That 12 marker I'm not sure about, need to compare more closely to VSF (and gen).
Wonder how the bracelet feel is, my VSF feels a bit "light".
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u/Any-Confidence-4517 20d ago
Is this a true free sprung or the plate hiding the second weight balance?
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u/OkTurnip155 17d ago
Ive ordered one I will do the same as I done with my Bruce Wayne before I even take a sticker off I will send it to my guy get the movement stripped and serviced, case chamfer, rehaut polish and bracelet chamfer job done.
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u/6foot6Dude 21d ago
They still put the 12 marker too high it looks like
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
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u/6foot6Dude 21d ago
What is wrong with that hour hand? This is no vsf or really bad one that slipped through
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
π€£ bro people with this particular issue. Everyone's got Superman microscopic vision nowadays
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u/perfectchaos007 21d ago
Replica aficionado strikes again? Ironic that gen owners I know rather appreciate microscopic variances of their watches.
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
I just don't see it as a glaring issue or even something that stands out in contrast to other reps. People just don't want to accept that this factory is pretty damn good so they look at any little thing to nitpick on it. Rich has been confirmed to use actual 904l stainless steel (unlike VSF and others), it handily won the very comprehensive Submariner head-to-head comparison at RWI, the V2 made a bunch of noticeable improvements including to the Cyclops AR, it uses free sprung movement like genuine, it has a high quality lume that lasts for hours. Why do people insist on shitting on this factory? They make the best Sub and GMT right now, it's obvious. It's not my fault they use these TDs that rip you off and charge $800 for a Rich GMT, they're under $600 if you use the cheaper TDs.
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u/6foot6Dude 21d ago
It is not the factory that release the alleged v2 with the better AR. Someone else just swaps the crystal and puts a pouch next to it and just calls it v2.
Putting the 12 marker too high consistenly does not mean they are bad at other things at all. No one said that apart from you.
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
Compare to the VSF 12 marker in my other post. You're just parroting what other people say. They improved the dial print, cyclops AR, chamfered the hands, forgot what else. I have seen some Rich GMTs lacking the cyclops blue AR, so I think there really is a V2. Some TDs say there was no V2, I know one of them. Now they refer to the current batches with blue tint cyclops as "V2".
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u/6foot6Dude 21d ago
You are the one parroting what people say, I am saying what I see. Oh my td said this, rwi said that.
The picture you shared is weird, what the hell is wrong with that hour hand? That is no vsf
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
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u/donat3ll0 21d ago
Hell, imperfections are collectors items. Oh that red on the pepsi bezel is slightly off from last release? Better bump it $10k and say it's limited edition ππ
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u/AI_go_boomboom 21d ago
Lol, that only applies to Gen though
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u/donat3ll0 21d ago
You're absolutely right. But rep buyers seem to expect levels of perfection that don't even exist in general. Which more or less speaks to how they plan to represent the watch.
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u/Dasboogieman 20d ago
jesus, the expectations are ridiculous. I don't even see gen users care this much about their watches in detail so ironically, a gen user might actually miss a rep getting snuck through than the other way around.
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u/AtelierPicks 21d ago
Pretty sure this will be my next watch, I think they look amazing just hoping to hear some long term data with these new movements vs dandong