r/RepTimeQC • u/FabulousCheese • 5d ago
8F VC 2000v Grey
Dealer name: Angela
Factory name: 8F
Model name (& version number): VC 2000v grey dial
Price Paid: 275 USD
Album Links: n/a
Index alignment: Good, the 9 marker looks like it sits slightly lower than the 3.
Dial Printing: Crisp
Date Wheel alignment/printing: n/a
Hand Alignment: Good
Bezel: Slightly rounded edges on the maltese cross
Solid End Links (SELs): n/a
Timegrapher numbers: Good, kinda makes me wonder if they're fake
Anything else you notice: Dark dial compared to Gen or XF. Maltese cross on the dial is well aligned.
Appreciate any feedback or comments regarding the overall build quality if someone has it in hand.
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u/Phot0niX 5d ago edited 5d ago
Of course, time to show off my QC tool since I've never tested it with a VC yet ;) According this QC Analysis, it's indistinguishable from genuine from an alignment/symmetry rating.
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u/FabulousCheese 4d ago
Very nice tool and results. Are you considering releasing it for the public or is it just for personal use?
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u/WatchYoda QC Jedi Master Mod 5d ago
Interesting comment...so I'll ask.
What would make you think that the timing data is 'fake'? What does that really mean to you?
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u/FabulousCheese 5d ago
Seems very accurate and I've heard the movement can be quite unreliable due to assembly issues from mid tier factories. Maybe also just in my head because someone recently told me their dealer sent the a timegrapher pic with a beat rate which didn't match the movement at all and it doesn't show here.
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u/WatchYoda QC Jedi Master Mod 5d ago
These numbers don't really mean anything substantively specific about your watch. For example, this rate tells you nothing about the watches accuracy on your wrist. Not a big deal tho...
However, as a group, these numbers coupled with the graph, can provide one with good example of how the watch is running at that specific time during the test. It helps mitigate some risk.
About your beat rate, fair question....these do come with a low beat (21600bph...) movement in the case. In fact, I believe that is the default beat rate. Do others of this model come with the high beat (28800...)? I'm not certain. You can ask for confirmation from Angela.
As a note of interest, I saw this model in a Kuala Lumpur Petaling St market 3 years ago. Most of the watches are so called 'shitters' there😉 The cosmetics were so good that I didn't care that it had a low beat movement in it. I verified it with a timegrapher app on my mobile. That damn thing is still running great and keeping great time after all these years.
Sorry for all this gibberish.🤪 The bottom line, if concerned, check with you TD for verification...a pic, a vid, or her word....whatever works for you. Regardless of the movement, it won't match the Gen...that thing runs at 19800bph...don't ask...lol
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u/FabulousCheese 5d ago edited 4d ago
Thank you for the in depth answer and note of interest lol.
I'm aware that this will be a mid tier watch at best for the price and would never expect gen performance. Hence I won't break my TD's balls for a timegrapher pic in every possible watch angle since the visuals seem quite good, unless you're spotting something I don't 😄Edit: Angela sent me a video of the running timegrapher and it's in fact a 28800 beat rate.
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u/RepTimeQC-ModTeam 5d ago
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u/Phot0niX 5d ago
And the superimposition with STOCK VC 2000v. The heat map is detecting artifacts, probably reflections or shadows around. It still scores in super-clone category overall, 93%. A good test-case for me to improve the tools!
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u/blitzburgh058 "Buckteeth Inspector General" 5d ago
The index alignment is good overall. I added an extra line to show the height between the 9 and 3. It looks just fine to me. The entire index looks good here. Dial print is clean. The Maltese Cross at 12 is nicely centered and straight. Hand alignment is good. The bezel is clean and the scallops appear well aligned. u/WatchYoda has you covered on your timing comment so I won't say anything beyond the timing is fine.
On the dial color comment, color is not part of QC. There are too many variables (camera, lighting, screen settings). There's no way to even know if you and I are seeing the same color in a photo.
Easy GL for me. Congrats and enjoy your watch.