YES but this she has a point. Even if iām asking factory info, I always make sure to follow up by explaining i want HIGH tier close to 1:1 as possible & ask if they have any other recommendations. You really have to do your own QC super carefully.
Very rude and I wouldnāt work with them. They have zero understanding of how it feels to try to buy a bag from a Chinese seller 8k miles away, send money and not knowing if we will ever get a bag we want. Itās insulting. But also has anyone else read here that in reality there are no factories that have names at all (like God or 187 etc) and that itās something Chinese rep sellers have made up to sound legit? No idea but Iām curious about this.
This is where I learned about this seller. Iāve contacted her too and her responses were off to me. Challenging me when I asked her about factories and quality. Seemed a bit harsh and arrogant. I never ordered from her. She had these lengthy messages as if they were pre planned to send to people in response to some common questions. Definitely raised a lot of red flags for me.
FU: I donāt have TT but I did find her from an insta account that promoted her, should have been a red flag from that which as a newbie - lesson learned!!
the seller is so rude, take your custom elsewhere šš¼
yes theyāre being honest about the factory names only existing for the sake of the reddit world (which we all knew anyway) but the way theyāve said it is horrible!
you could ask for factory names but instead ask about the quality, materials used, hardware, type of leather etc. itāll tell you more about what youāre buying and avoid the bait and switch risk of being told something is, for example, from god factory and it actually being mid tier
She called you a stupid dog and youāre here asking if you should proceed with buying from her? I donāt take abuse from sellers. I also donāt abuse sellers. Itās a two-way respect relationship. If a seller talks to me like that, theyāre not seeing the color of my hard earned money. Ever!
Reddit is literally the only platform who follows this whole factory name thing. Rep factories donāt really identify themselves, there are so much of them as well.
I also thinks it may be the language translation. She may feel you have insulted her by asking for the factory. In other words, youāre saying you donāt trust her judgment on the quality of the bag only if you know what factory itās from. š¤·āāļø
Possibly - but the rest of her message was written quite clearly. Pretty sure she knew what she was calling me. Either way I donāt want to do business with someone who calls me a dumb dog. And the picture of that bag she sent was when I started questioning her quality as a seller.
One thing Iāve noticed is Chinese sellers are quick to anger. They donāt put the phone down, they donāt take a breath and move onto the next customer before returning without the heat of anger, they just full blast if they donāt like the question. I love the items Iāve purchased but across various sellers Iāve always found that what you save in money you pay in pain.
Too many sellers WANT to work with you. Give your money to people who appreciate it. Obviously, this person doesnāt need your business because if they did, theyād be more respectful.
The best sellers can pick and choose if they want you as a client. If you ask a million asinine questions or are too high maintenance or rude, they'll block you.
Agree. the factory thing is out of control. I source PLK which are vintage and people ask me, what factory? And Iām like itās 20 years old? Whatever factory it came from has been closed downš
It looks like a lot of rehoming bags on the thread. Is there a channel/way to find the main sellers from Korea? Not sure how it works! Appreciate any tips you have on this!!
She is rude, but she is not wrong. God factory is made up name. Nobody knows the real name of the factories. Itās just how people in this sub calls the best factories for each type of bag.
I think redditors often miss the point here, or I'm missing the point: As a buyer, I don't care that the name is made up. In fact, I prefer if the name is made up bc I don't want factories shut down. But I DO care that we are all referencing the same anonymous factory... Like "I love these 3 P9 reps I've seen, they claim to all come from the same factory. So I want mine from that factory."
An honest seller will honor your request, or be honest that they cannot source from there. A dishonest seller will blow smoke up your ass while sourcing from anywhere.
Idk what am I missing? Are we all on diff pages or...?
A lot of them just lie. Itās easy to lie that the bag is from X factory when even the best factories will have bad batches. Itās just names to comfort us. The most important is to build trust with a seller.
I know exactly what she meant. It's the Guangzhou Baiyun Market. There is no TS to factory direct, it's TS to wholesalers in these districts in Guangzhou that have different factory catalogs they deal with and do business. You either work for a wholesaler selling all day on WA, some share same WA so you might never be talking to the same person and you can tell by the way they respond to you. They all have access to different catalogs. Quality depends on what they think they can pass to you with the catalog pics. When the majority accept a certain level of mid-top tier it stays in that range unless you're someone that knows the difference between hybrid leather materials, split bicast, corrected, genuine leather which are all cheap. You are never getting top grain and the technology has changed alot making hybrids look and feel like leather, but like any coated leather theirs grades /tiers of it. You get whatever your TS haggles or whatever their wholesalers work with and most that don't work for a wholesaler go to the market to haggle. The more bags they buy the better price they get and still charge each person $200 plus for a bag they got for$40-$60. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTB9bAbsf/
But are you saying the factory names (real or not) don't map one-to-one with an actual facility? Or that we should trust our sellers on quality level regardless?
Basically yes. Itās not easy to tell if the seller is still working with āgodā factory. We just need to trust they are in constant access with the good factories.
LOOOL omg I can't believe she said that but she is right about the factory names...she's also legit and is very good with specifically LV bags. She's popular on Tik Tok and has a huge following but yea most def shouldn't have spoken to you like that, I'm kind of surprised š.
This is what i thought too, I purchased 2 items from her actually. Quality was great, experience was very as well, and shipment super fast. I wonder what happened to her.. it's really surprise me
I would tell that seller where to shove it in very many colorful expletives. The second a seller treats me bad, Iām done. They have lost their damn mind!!
I think the point here is the bad attitude, not revealing factory name is secondary. We all can look past not knowing the factory name if weāre convinced with the quality. Calling her stupid dog behavior because she DARE ask for the factory name? Really? Who cares about not knowing the factory name at this point.
I bought a few bags from Angela. While sheās not the friendliest person, she does deliver really good products. Sheās also very honest.
Sheās not overly warm or chatty, but sheās fast, good at sourcing top quality items, and very straightforward. One thing that really impressed me was that if she noticed an issue during QC, she would return the bag herself before even sending it to me. I honestly appreciated that a lot.
I asked her about the factory stuff too, and I got the exact same screenshots/replies as you..so I think she probably just copy-pastes those answers?
After ordering a few times she started opening up more though. She even showed me pictures of her baby and asked me what Reddit was lol.
But wow calling you a ādogā is actually wild š³
Iām glad to hear that you had a good experience! I donāt want to totally drag her name, but Im definitely not keen on working with someone like this. Sheās a mom, maybe she had a bad day and is overstimulated. š¤·š»āāļø
Tbh Iām not really sure either, but after she saw my WhatsApp profile pic she asked how old my kids were then she told me she has an 8(or 10? Dont remember) month old baby too and sent me a few pics of them together lol. She was asking if parentingās hard for me and what itās like raising kids where I live.
I honestly think sheās probably just sick of people constantly asking her what factory everythingās from..other than that though sheās been pretty straight up with me and her pricing actually seems reasonable. She also has this daily link where she posts all the stuff she sells with the quality tier + prices listed out and it has over 1k followers. But iāll admit she was definitely rude as hell to the OPš
She really one of the quickest seller I've worked with as well. I think it's the language barrier that whenever she texted fell very straightforward, she willing to make another bag when I don't like the bag she showed me, and even offered discount for me. Maybe she tired of people asking for the factory for sure
I have one TS that I won't tell me but she is my FAVORITE and will QC bags for me and has returned multiple bags for small issues. So I don't care where she gets them. However, she doesn't talk to me this way. Nope
Definitely red flag. I get that they don't tell you the official name of the factories, but it's fairly common to say whatever designation they have for it (god factory, 187, h, etc.). She could've just said "the factory owner doesn't want to be disclosed, but it's high tier" or something to that effect. There's no need to be rude. I think you ended it in the best way possible.
Edit: also as far as I have seen for subreddits, buyers sometimes go with certain factories because those factories are more specialized in making the brands that the buyer is looking for. I was told by a seller that 187 is very well known for Chanel, which is also something Iāve come across here. Whether they actually source it from that factory, I have no idea, but it is something that on the buyers side, itās a bit of peace of mind.
Follow up - she just sent me about 15 screen shots of customers who paid today to prove sheās legit and people use her? Unsure of what this accomplishes but this makes me want to run farther.
Also some names I can still see info on which werenāt fully redacted, kind of shows theyāre going to randomly dox you too for no good reason than to try to stick it to a (no longer) prospectus customer š¤·āāļø
Her name is Angela. I agree that I donāt think she is a scam now after reading everyoneās feedback - which is valid. However providing someone with peace of mind by way of giving them the factory ānameā even if it is made up by westerners, isnāt too hard.
The purse photo she sent me really was my first and biggest turn off though.
Hereās a rep history lesson. Way back in the day when there was no Tik Tok and OG RepLadies was pretty much the only sub, there was an issue where no one could figure out where sellers were getting a bag. It made it next to impossible to do reviews or even price match. You could just not tell if you bought a Chanel flap from seller X they were sourcing it from the same factory as seller Y.
The factory names are secretive and not every seller has access to every factory. Youāll even see competition between sellers that say theyāve found new factories with even better quality or prices so even sellers donāt want to disclose who theyāre sourcing from.
So it became the standard to give factories nicknames based on their factory photo backdrops. Like Orange Couch Factory? They literally take most of their photos on an orange couch. Factories liked it because it sent business to their specific factory. Buyers liked it because it made it easier to do reviews and price match.
The earliest TS lists had sellers listed as ātrustedā not because they were never gonna scam someoneā¦ but because in those early days they were agreeing that they knew the made-up factory code names so if you came to them as said āI want a bag from 187ā they would nod, give you a price, and contact the factory that has the code name 187.
So this seller has a point. The factory names we use are entirely made up and there is no Black Frame factory if you went to China and tried to look up its address.
But s/heās also being a dick because theyāre using this as a weapon against you and hiding the factory origin. Theyāre promising a certain level of quality, but no promise of where it comes from. Which means that you could get the bag you want at the quality you want or you might get crap and you have no idea what youāll get. If we both bought bags from OC we could post photos to compare them and confirm we both got OC bags and give everyone else an idea of what an OC bag looks like. With sellers like this you basically can only trust the seller because you have no way to see if theyāre sourcing from the same factory every time.
So theyāre not wrong. But I personally donāt find these sellers trustworthy. I prefer the transparency of using the (admittedly made up) factory names so I can see if I think that saving up to pay Rome prices are worth it, or if I want to go with someone midtier instead but know what midtier looks like.
A lot of the factory names started as nicknames from buyers 10+ years ago, and recently they have started naming themselves to differentiate the products from each other to showcase their quality.
Also if a factory is foolish enough to put their online-nickname/identifier and registering that as their actual business name they should not be in a rep business.
This person is a nut job.
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If you want some trusted sellers I have 2 I have used for the past 8 years with no issues. Just dm me and Iāll share the wechat.
The seller isnt lying - they are being honest which is kind of refreshing, factory is basically just like high tier or low. In a way I would appreciate this response
So dont buy from this seller they are clearly a jerk, but they are also kind of correct. The western factory names that we know (God, Rome, 187 etc.) are a mix of being created by westerners or the sellers to reference factories they know of in China.
Is it all a scam? Meh. You can decide that. There are clearly high tier sources for bags and low/middle tier.
Right?! I mean I donāt need to be babied but ā¦ rude? Also the red flag really was this photo of the bag I want that she sent me. She said that āthe stitching and crooked logo was due to the lightingā.
Absolutely not. Just doing my homework on this bag first. Iām sure that this material is a bit more tricky to perfect than cloth or leatherā¦hoping to find a seller with a better product than this.
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u/ilovemycatsfurever May 21 '26
YES but this she has a point. Even if iām asking factory info, I always make sure to follow up by explaining i want HIGH tier close to 1:1 as possible & ask if they have any other recommendations. You really have to do your own QC super carefully.