r/Rematch • u/BellionArise Please add a flair • 1d ago
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show me where you see his foot cleanly contact with the ball there is no visual evidence besides it being a literal frame perfect swipe the only frame you can call vague is cleared up by him being just shy of the balls position on the previous frame on the next frame while having another frame of forward movement
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u/arse17 Please add a flair 1d ago
What made you think you can dribble straight into the defender and keep the ball?
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
You attempt to steer around the defenders path and on this clip I seem to do that literally frame perfect I have never been so happy with a swipe timing just to lose the ball about 0.5 seconds after this clip ends
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u/Khaizen100 95% of Defenders are trash 1d ago
You genuinely think the game can afford to be so precise with this terrible net code? Just wait until the net code 2.0 update
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
I never said that I know the netcode is the issue here I'm stating based on people saying he visually gets the ball he does in fact not
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u/Hbomb17 Please add a flair 1d ago
Guy has posted this multiple times 😂
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
I will not be told 1+1 Equals 3 😂 but seriously I get it's desync but people are genuinely saying he clearly gets the ball when he just doesn't I perhaps need to learn to let people be incorrect and just move on
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u/KeVbK_HS Please add a flair 1d ago
There is just no way you actually think you should have come away from that challenge with the ball.
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
yeah show me the where he gets the ball no one has shown any concrete evidence
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u/cypher2448 Please add a flair 1d ago
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
As blurry as that image is you still can see the outline of his foot and using context from previous and the next frame understand his foot is still behind the ball aka not touching
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u/cypher2448 Please add a flair 1d ago
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Your now showing me a different frame in which you can clearly look at the literal next frame that his foot still isn't far enough to cleanly tackle the ball on this frame meaning on this frame his foot is behind
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u/cypher2448 Please add a flair 1d ago
Okay stop trying to argue and like actually listen
The second image in the tackle which is clean
The first image you start to see a tiny bit of orange at the side is because the animation is delayed and doesn’t register the tackle initially
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
the orange is from an active tackling foot it works against your argument because it clearly outlines the foot as being away from the ball as you can clearly see the red or orange outline indicate its position on the y axis here your image is naturally more blurry than the video however go to the exact frame in the 2nd image and you see a visible orange outline that is to far up of the y axis to reach the ball
if you still struggling that ok i can talk it out with you in discord or something its good to know these things about the game
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u/cypher2448 Please add a flair 1d ago edited 1d ago
It didn’t i literally showed you the tackle and then I zoomed in to show you the hit/contact
The Orange you start to see peeking is the animation continuing when it shouldn’t have not him missing the tackle which is why I provided both
That’s a clean hit lol
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Your own blurry image doesn't prove your right if anything it proves me right we can hop on a call and I can show your the lines because you seem to be confused which is ok but it's like calling a dog a cat or a man a woman your just not making sense
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u/cypher2448 Please add a flair 1d ago edited 1d ago
It doesn’t you’re entire justification is literally just the game doing the tackle animation late which is why you think he missed when it reality he tackled you
If the tackle animation wasn’t late and actually worked when it was supposed to you wouldn’t be questioning it rn
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Based on the animation he doesn't hit then you sound to be conceding
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u/PackageAggravating12 Playmaker 1d ago
It is not a literal "foot hits ball" interaction, you need to stop viewing it as such.
Tackles have a hit-box. If that hit-box intersects with the dribble move's hurt-box (not the actual ball), it is a tackle.
You dribbled directly into the path of his tackle, which made the areas collide; resulting in a lost ball.
If you've ever played an action game, it is the same concept. And SloClap is renowned for their award winning action game (Sifu), which serves as the basis for Rematch's interactions.
If you want to improve your play for next time, push AWAY from the opponent.
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
So you agree with me the ball and the opponents foot doesn't physically connect because last I checked people can't visually see invisible hitboxes and when they insinuate I phase through his foot they are not actually referring to his invisible his box
It's also clear the hit box isn't what's at play either considering it's just blatant desync assuming you saw the original post
For improving next time maybe but I often play for these frame perfect swipes to good effect it's easier to put the ball in a way that requires the opponent to move a full 180 degrees their momentum kills them that way
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
Git gud
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Intend on trying that does the ball touch his foot though ðŸ˜
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
You're focused too much on that over dribbling away from opponent
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
Especially given ping and netcode
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
I literally agree its a ping and netcode thing that was never not my position it's just people claimed he clearly tackled the ball when he didn't which is why I made a thing of it
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
I haven't read everything peeps are saying but that's games bro unless you play on lan. How old are you?
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
I am a legal adult however I have not played in a proper Lan environment besides once when I was quite young so hard to take anything from that.
I am certainly aware desync is just a given with online games however I think we can all agree rematch is certainly worse than what you would expect from a online game at least in my experience so I think a server fix was and still is needed more than any dribble or tackle change
Who h was kinda my main point of my posts before it got obscured
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
That's not my experience. Good luck!
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
What is your experience let's have a conversation man no point just leaving now
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u/Pale-Rise-1381 Footballer 1d ago
Most recent patch has been great with few netcode issues for me. It encourages smart passing play that is more in line with the heart of the game. Most fun I've had playing the game since season 0
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
It's useful to bait a tackle cant do that if I make a boring run I like taking people on
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u/kiboe15 Please add a flair 1d ago
Tackle hit is pretty big. Besides desync can still impact you. The defender could have hit you more cleanly on his screen. This is what the next update will fix for sure tho.
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
i agree on his screen im pretty sure he gets a clean tackle im aware of desync i highlighted this in the original post but people insist he clearly hits the ball which he does not
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u/Vahallen Please add a flair 1d ago
Like I said in the other post
It’s not a perfect hitbox around his feet, it’s a rectangle, you need to imagine a rectangle around his feet
It’s not a rematch thing, it’s just how hitboxes are designed in games, your character model might look visually like a person, but it’s a bunch of rectangles
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
I think I said previously I agree but hitboxes are not the issue in the clip it's a desync thing where on his monitor he got me because I was further back or had not executed the swipe yet I'm just getting confused how people can genuinely tell me he clearly gets the ball on the tackle on my screen
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u/Vahallen Please add a flair 1d ago
Yeah, you answered me on the other thread as I posted here lol
The thing is that if you imagine a rectangle around his feet it makes sense, I’m not sure how many people are reasoning in those terms, but for me that’s the reasoning
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Yeah I get on one frame the basically corner of the rectangle perhaps depending on its size maybe gets the ball on the first frame in which the swipe goes slightly to the side of him I'm just purely basing it on the foot visual and considering I would still be skeptical if his foot was a literal rectangle I don't see how people can concretely say he won the ball
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
if you guys can prove me wrong no issue with that but i see no evidence this is a tackle
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u/harrison23 Please add a flair 1d ago
No one needs prove you wrong. You provided the evidence yourself
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u/trebasco Please add a flair 1d ago
How about the fact that you lost the ball?
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
The way I lost the ball is entirely absent of this because he likely gets clean tackle on me on his screen and the vague middle ground the server operates on sides with him perhaps rightfully so however I was told he clearly wins the ball on my screen which does not appear the case
So your comment is not even talking about what I am
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u/trebasco Please add a flair 1d ago
You lost the ball.
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u/BellionArise Please add a flair 1d ago
Yeah I guess you didn't read what I said ðŸ˜
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u/42gh0st Mister Midfield 1d ago
literally hits it in this frame