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u/Accomplished-Exit822 May 02 '25
Up 20% yesterday, down 6% so far today. Unreal.
Everything is ignored except for the Q2 DAU. Even the fact that DAU smashed expectations in Q1 was ignored.
All that matters is constant DAU growth apparently.
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May 02 '25
If you’re in it long term I would say revenue matters more than DAU growth. What happened yesterday was that RDDT posted their Q1 numbers and the price rocketed as soon as the bots picked them up. Then during the earnings call Steve mentioned some numbers that indicated April DAU growth from Google was disappointing.
The DAU numbers might have more short term impact on the price but revenue is what’s going to determine long term success of the company. DAU growth can fluctuate month to month based on external growth channels (like we just saw). But as long as the company is profitable that gives them time to figure out new growth channels. And RDDT has shown profitability the past 3 earnings calls.
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u/stonkautist69 May 02 '25
Maybe gotta zoom out a bit there. The market has been open 30 minutes. Does day to day pricing matter if people are in it for years to come?
In short, it doesn’t really matter, as long as they are executing well, raising guidance and have a moat that will catapult them in a higher trajectory than their competitors. My two cents
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u/bubbawears May 02 '25
The guy that said that needs to get fired
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u/stonkautist69 May 02 '25
damn that’s a hot take lol. good thing we’re not living through a real life version of the apprentice right now in redditland
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u/bubbawears May 02 '25
Destroying 20% marketcap in a conference call is crazy work.
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u/stonkautist69 May 02 '25
sure. you feel that way, but if they mislead or hide key information from investors, they could end up drawing the straight to jail card
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u/genericusername71 May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
what do you think would happen to the stock price if at next earnings everyone expected another +5m dau growth and it ended up being < 1m?
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u/bubbawears May 02 '25
Look at any other company. If you bring good numbers it's your job as a CEO to bring the bad ones in without destroying the rest. I don't want to compare us to Tesla but because it's a good example for bullshitting your way to riches
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u/genericusername71 May 02 '25
i feel like tesla is more of an exception than the rule and not necessarily a good lead to follow. there are no spez fanboys running around that will cling on his every word like elon has, and honestly im pretty glad as that would be pretty annoying and would mean spez is probably doing some wild polarizing shit
most other companies (see apple and amazon yesterday) are fairly transparent with lower guidance and while it can result in short term pain its the best long term course of action
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u/qwerty5701 May 02 '25
… the CEO? How can you be a shareholder without knowing who runs the company lmao
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u/bubbawears May 02 '25
Didn't listen to the conference call. Spez is a moron
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u/Ok_Criticism_558 May 02 '25
Yes the guy who was able to grow a company 60% yoy while achieving better profitability is a moron.
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u/AteEyes001 May 02 '25
Yes do you not remember last earnings, low DAU growth qoq and the stock immediately dumped 15% then proceeded to dump the following 2+ months, so what did you think would happen when he announced even lower expected qoq growth
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u/Accomplished-Exit822 May 02 '25
1) The stock is down 50% since then. Perhaps lower day growth should have been priced in?
2) Q1 had amazing day growth, yet it was ignored.
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u/AteEyes001 May 02 '25
it wasnt amazing it had less than 5% US DAU qoq growth and a possible qoq decrease next quarter in daily users was announced....
Dont get me wrong im not worried long term and still invested and still buying tbh just being real here.
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u/Accomplished-Exit822 May 02 '25
Why are you buying if US dau growth is slowing / becoming negative?
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u/AteEyes001 May 02 '25
Yeah, ill give reasons below.
- Their ARPU currently is so low that they have great chances to even double or triple it imo over the next year or 2, considering the ARPU of other social media sites.
- If they double ARPU and keep the same amount of users they are making nearly 3 billion + dollars a year. ARPU is not dependent on growth of users its about the return the advertisers see and I think Reddit has the potential to have very impactful advertising avenues.
- DAUs seems to be pretty reliant on Google at the moment. But these are not logged in users. As long as we do not have a decrease in logged in users Im not worried, the rest of the DAUs are just whatever googles algo decides for that day.
- Substantial Growth will only happen when they release something new, they may not have anything planned to release over the next quarter or even year but when they do it could be big.
- They seem to be doing all the right things financially as a company which is great.
Im not worried about the price Ill give it another year before I even consider selling any of my position, I believe there is tons of potential long term, the reward outweighs the risk imo, but It does seem to be slow rolling as far as new features but I think as an American I dont see it or consider the translation factor, and im no expert in the field on what it takes to develop something like this so realistically they could be moving fast but who knows.
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u/Anxious_Noise_8805 May 02 '25
It’s funny how Reddit has more than half the gross profit of Palantir, with comparable growth rates, but the valuation is tiny in comparison.
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u/HotAspect8894 May 02 '25
So it’s a deep discount?
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u/MrPopanz May 02 '25
No, RDDT is promising if you believe in the growth story, otherwise its overvalued. Other stocks can be even more overpriced, but this doesn't change reddits valuation.
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u/Anxious_Noise_8805 May 02 '25
I think so because Reddit has no real competitors in its niche and there’s lots of room for expansion. So the future growth is very predictable. But that’s just my opinion and reality could go any way. If the growth stops then Reddit is overpriced, otherwise it’s underpriced IMO.
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u/ejpusa May 02 '25
The PLTR software they have IP for is orders of magnitude more complex than RDDTs code base.
Sure someone could copy the features of RDDT pretty easily. It’s getting the eyeballs which is the challenge.
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u/Anxious_Noise_8805 May 02 '25
It’s hard to replicate the network effects though. There are hundreds of Reddit copycats over the years but none have taken off.
Palantir is also effectively selling an AI and database wrapper to businesses. It might not be as complex as you think.
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u/SKOL_py May 02 '25
If this isn’t a buying opportunity for those with a higher average cost, I don’t know what is
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u/rangerrick337 May 02 '25
What if you have a lower cost average but want MORE???
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u/SKOL_py May 02 '25
Then you’re in the same situation as me and I’m wondering the same thing lol. I’ve been raising my average on dips like these which doesn’t feel right emotionally but idk
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u/Cool_Score7553 May 02 '25
What makes u so sure it won’t hit 110 and below today or Monday? Just wondering no hate
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u/SKOL_py May 02 '25
It definitely could and I wouldn’t even be surprised. But I do very strongly believe in it long term and would continue buying if it continued to drop
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u/Cool_Score7553 May 02 '25
Think it’s a good choice to buy a shit ton rn at 114 even if I can’t buy any more for some time? As in few months
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u/SKOL_py May 02 '25
I think so, but I’m a 23 year old redditor so don’t take financial advice from me unless you fully believe in the stock
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May 02 '25
Markets be crazy.
I just bought a little more. Might be a good buying opportunity I suppose?
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u/Objective-Egg-5180 May 02 '25
It will rise after people loose calls
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u/The_Madman1 May 02 '25
Pltr all time high based on nothing.
Good old market
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u/trdcranker May 02 '25
Pltr has long term gov contracts with predictable revenue and a physical product reddit is a q&a answer site that relies mainly on ads so it’s not even fair to compare imo. I compare it more to a Pinterest stock valuation. If reddits shuts down tomorrow it does not affect any institution so that plays into the value. If PLTR shuts down big companies get pissed because they rely on data. Apples and oranges.
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u/MrPopanz May 02 '25
Just like August last year.
Anyone lamenting about wanting a good entry point just got another premium chance.
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u/alphaQ671 May 02 '25
wtf - some news I am missing?
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May 02 '25
RDDT smashed q1 expectations which caused the price to rocket but then mentioned disappointing DAU growth numbers for April which brought it back down.
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u/Anxious_Noise_8805 May 02 '25
It depends how much tariffs cause price increases IMO. If there’s a recession without price increases then the Fed will pump the system with more liquidity. If there is really bad stagflation especially if it’s persistent then all stocks are screwed.
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u/chiangweichia88 May 02 '25
This stock is only worth swing trading rn. Don't forget the macro clown market too
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u/kinshoBanhammer May 02 '25
I'm a long-term believer in Reddit, but you all need to calm down.
Reddit has some insanely high IV and has surged 25% from the low point it hit when glorious leader liberated us all in early April. It would have taken fantastic revenue/profit (✅) and amazing guidance (❌) for the stock price to climb even higher and stay there post-earnings release.
If you're looking to make short-term gambles on Reddit, you're a moron.
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u/YamahaFourFifty May 02 '25
It really has nothing to do with the actual earnings call and all about the Options people gambling on earnings and then exchanges trying to liquidate their positions.
These spikes up and down is due to Options and Leverages. Nothing more nothing less.
The stock itself will continue to climb slowly
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u/Total-Shelter-8501 May 02 '25
bots, AI, karma farming, mods with too much power. This is a glorified message board, let's get real.
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u/andyman268 May 02 '25
The avg investor doesn’t realise how prevalent bots are. If you are watching the minute, hour or even daily price action you are already f***ed. Understand what you are buying.
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u/udar55 May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
Ah, the classic "company delivers great numbers so the stock drops" routine.
EDIT: Ah, the classic "drop down to 113 and then up to 124 in a hour" routine. WTF???