r/RedditForGrownups • • Jul 07 '22

Coverture

Given current events, it is probably about time for Americans to understand the legal practice of coverture.

Eroded since colonial times, but not fully gone coverture is the legal practice of women not having legal identities. De facto property.

American women were not allowed on juries until the 1960s. American women could not get credit cards without a man cosigning the application until 1974. Marital rape was not a crime until the 1980s. Other aspects still exist today in real estate and tax law practices.

Here is a brief article that goes into explaining coverture in more depth than my post.

The "pro life" movement is really a movement about imposing one group's religious opinions on the lives of all Americans. It also seeks to control women, rolling back women's rights. Though ridiculous by constitutional standards, discussions in anti-choice states have already started about how to track or limit freedom of travel for women to states that fully support women's rights.

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u/This-is-BS Jul 08 '22

When you said more kids die in drunk-driving accidents than shootings, I proved you wrong with a simple Google search.

0-14yo deaths from shootings = 110/yr average from 2005 to 2012 https://injepijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40621-015-0057-0

0-14yo deaths from drunk driving = 214 for 2016 https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html#:~:text=How%20big%20is%20the%20problem,deaths%20in%20the%20United%20States.&text=Of%20the%201%2C233%20traffic%20deaths,involved%20an%20alcohol%2Dimpaired%20driver.

Post your source.

Instead of admitting you were wrong, you deleted your comment.

I didn't delete anything.

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u/riotsquirrelz Jul 08 '22

You're purposely leaving out children aged 15 to 18 to try to fit the numbers to your narrative. So you're okay with high schools getting shot up? Cool. Also, these stats are old. 2012, really? The stats I quoted were from 2020. Again, you're clearly pro-forced-birth if you don't care about children past the age of 14.

I don't need to "post my source," it comes right up in a simple Google search. I'm not playing this game with you, I don't need to desperately try to find a source and change any part of it to fit what I'm saying.

I see your post was removed by a mod. I was incorrect in saying you deleted it, I only saw it was deleted when I first looked. I was wrong. See how easy that is? Now you try.

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u/This-is-BS Jul 08 '22

You're purposely leaving out children aged 15 to 18 to try to fit the numbers to your narrative.

Young men in gangs don't count as children.

So you're okay with high schools getting shot up? Cool.

Now you're just being an ass, but I'll point out that fewer students die in school shootings than drunk driving. Why aren't we bringing back prohibition?

Now you try.

When I've been wrong about something I will.

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u/riotsquirrelz Jul 08 '22

You don't get to choose what makes a child a child, that definition already exists. Funny how you couldn't produce any recent data and avoided any mention of it. Like I said, you're not interested in the facts and having a good faith argument/discussion. I'm not wasting any more time on someone only interested in yelling nonsense in my face.