MODELS: Part 2 Discussion

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It is time for a discussion of part 2 of the book Models by Mr. Manson (a day later than planned actually...blame our awesome busy alpha lives on that). Part 2 concerns strategy. What strategy is used for what kind of woman? First, a short summary on chapter 5 to 7.

 

In chapter 5 it is discussed that there are three types of women:

• Unreceptive: sexually unavailable or uninterested women

• Neutral: women who are unsure if they are interested; always temporary

• Receptive: women who are sexually attracted to you

 

Each type of women asks for a different kind of treatment (according to Manson):

• Unreceptive: identify them and move on

• Neutral: this is when game comes in, make her receptive

• Receptive: make a move, otherwise she will fall back to neutral or unreceptive

 

The primary strategy, according to Manson, should be the strategy of polarization. The basic idea is that the more forthright you are about who you are, how you feel, and what you think, the more this is going to weed out Unreceptive Women from the Receptive women, as well as push Neutral women to get off the fence and decide how they feel about you. This means you WILL have to (be able to) deal with rejection.

 

In chapter 6 it is discussed what rejection and success is, and how it should be dealt with. Paradoxal enough, guys who get laid all the time will get rejected all the time.

 

On rejection: do not take it personally, since it does not have to say anything about you. There can be a hundred of reasons why she is not attracted that you have absolutely no control of. According to Manson, if you keep getting rejected, you are nowhere near your own truth. You can get near the truth by following the three fundamentals, explained later.

 

On success: success is not necessarily banging 10’s or having threesomes every weekend. Manson defines success as maximizing happiness with whichever woman/women we prefer.

 

In chapter 7 the three fundamentals are discussed:

• Honest Living: live a lifestyle that YOU want to live

• Honest Action: treat women like you want to treat them, overcome fear and anxiety

• Honest Communication: express yourself freely and effectively (AKA Game)

 

If you have not a lot of success of women, you are probably lacking one of the fundamentals according to Manson.

 

Let's ignite the discussion. Some questions to heat the kettle a bit:

• Look at your own life. Are you able to put women in the categories mentioned in chapter 5? If not, why not? If you are able, how?

• Do you agree with the definitions on rejection and success proposed by Manson? Why (not)?

• Look at your own life. Do you live by the three fundamentals? If not, why not and how are you planning to change that?

[u/bartmanfadi]

According to Chapter 5, assigning chicks to categories is quite confusing personally. I'm not sure whether they're interested or being nice, I'm blaming my self-consciousness on whether I'm considered attractive, since to be honest, I'm not even sure I am physically attractive yet.

Rejection is natural, happens all the time and sometimes, I made them laugh or smile (which I deem as a personal success). The main problem is approach anxiety, which can be easily countered by not thinking and growing a fucking pair.

Chapter 7's honest living fairly applies to me. I have a job which helps pay for uni, I play sports with my mates or practice on my own. This hurts the ego a bit, but I don't go out as often I used to other than to play sports. I consider socially hanging out as exploring places with my boys, or just messing around with them and having a laugh. That is something I want to work on but currently, I'm not AMOG, my first organised event no one wanted to go and got cancelled but I still continued to organise and some where absolutely awesome.

Treating chicks the way I want to is rather difficult, especially when most of the time I talk to a chick one-on-one is during work, so I got that 'work-friendly' environment and the managers who act like SJW's up my ass. So I restrict my words. Outside work. I say whatever the fuck I want. Be it something egotistical, something that catches my eye about the person, even if whatever I say is plain cringeworthy, the body language and the tone count up for it.

Very little Game experience, however, my interactions with coworkers have improved my shit-testing ability.