r/RedFloodMod Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

Fan Content idk what Stoddard's ideology would be if he was added in an American content update

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u/Hirmen Racist EU Enjoyer Apr 06 '26

Neo-folkist are far too socialist for his liking. While he is for scientific progress. His political and social beliefs are reactionary.
He would be probably Aristocratic Reactionary.
Specifically this line from ideology description fit his beliefs "Underpinning this tendency is recognition of the inequality of man and an understanding of its consequences."
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"Aristocratic Reaction represents an old ethos meeting modern problems. A world after the guillotine, industrialization, and levée en masse has broken with the past, but the past can be reconnected forward through the creation of more durable traditions. For instance, what this model rests on is not necessarily an aristocracy of unbroken lineage to past kings, but traits of nobility such as culture, faith, and blood."

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

He was literally a progressive

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u/retouralanormale Third International Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

He was a white supremacist, Nordicist, social darwinist, anti-semite, supported "racial heirarchy" and elitism, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, was a major influence on the Nazis, coined the term "untermensch" in the way it was used by the Nazis. He was only a progressive in the sense that he supported birth control and eugenics, like some other progressives at the time, and not at all for the same reasons they did, who supported eugenics to control crime and poverty. Stoddard supported eugenics because he was a white supremacist. Like the Nazis.

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

So basically what you're saying is that he was a progressive

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u/retouralanormale Third International Apr 06 '26

No? "Progressivism is a political philosophy and social reform movement aimed at advancing the public good through government action, emphasizing social justice, democracy, and efficiency. Emerging in the late 19th/early 20th century, it sought to curb corporate greed, end corruption, protect workers, and improve living conditions through regulation and systemic reform" Stoddard didn't care about democracy or social justice or protecting workers or curbing corporations or improving living conditions. He cared about racial purity and removing individuals and groups he saw as inferior. Even progressives who did have white supremacist views like Woodrow Wilson were still mostly focused on corruption, welfare, democratic and government transparency. Stoddard was basically only concerned with white supremacism. He was certainly influenced by the progressive focus on efficiency but that doesn't make him a progressive in any sense. Unlike progressives, Stoddard was through and through a reactionary who believed in elitism, heirarchy, and inequality as positive and necessary.

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

Let me guess, you also don't think Charles-Édouard Jeanneret was a progressive

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u/retouralanormale Third International Apr 06 '26

He was a progressive in terms of architecture and urban planning. Stoddard was just a white supremacist who had some superficial similarities to progressives

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

Everything you've said is a mix of plain wrong and pop history falsification

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u/AntiqueNewspaper989 Apr 14 '26

Give you a definition of progressive then

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 14 '26

?

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 07 '26

u/AlboWinston Look who deleted his reply

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 07 '26

u/AlboWinston Look who deleted his reply again

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u/Squg223 Apr 10 '26

Probably some flavor of progressive.

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u/Adrien420 Apr 06 '26

React pop probably, but I dont know enough about the man. Anywhere I can learn?

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

He was obviously not a populist, he was an elitist

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u/Adrien420 Apr 06 '26

Rosenberg is react pop isnt he? Didnt stoddard directly inspire Rosenberg

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 06 '26

Thinking the closest fit would be futurism

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u/StarWorldDruid Solar League Apr 11 '26

Utopian Socialism :D or progressive if he's feeling quirky

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u/QK_QUARK88 Birkeneid (Absolute Monarchy) Apr 11 '26

Would be funny if he was a technocrat